Freelancers Forum Messages on Thursday August 24th 2000
Re: FN-FORUM Complicated technology
date posted 24th August 2000 22:33
Oi!! I've just done a site for local butcher (www.orientalmeats.com) and
secure ordering is as important to him as to www.greedyfascistbank.com in
terms of his livelyhood. I get your general point th...
Re: FN-FORUM Re: To Ruth Arnold
date posted 24th August 2000 22:26
on 24/8/2000 7:07 pm, Jonathan Irvine at [EMAIL REMOVED]
wrote:
> We have looked into possible solutions other than using a Access
> database/ASP or coldfusion and found a complete real estate cgi-s...
RE: FN-FORUM Frontpage
date posted 24th August 2000 22:05
Hi
Speaking as someone who comes for the content side of
things, I think learning HTML gives you a better
understanding of how sites are created than either FP
or DW.
I got to use Frontpage 'on the...
RE: FN-FORUM Freelancer hourly charge rates
date posted 24th August 2000 22:02
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At 21:11 24/08/00, Stephen C Parker wrote:
>We are currently have exactly the same problem with clients and making them
>understand the longer-term bene...
Re: FN-FORUM making money from WAP
date posted 24th August 2000 22:02
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At 21:51 24/08/00, Smith Holburn wrote:
>Someone asked me today how you make money from WAP
>sites/services. Somewhat unusually, I didn't have
>anything...
Re: FN-FORUM Freelancer hourly charge rates
date posted 24th August 2000 21:57
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making money from WAP
date posted 24th August 2000 21:51
Hi
Someone asked me today how you make money from WAP
sites/services. Somewhat unusually, I didn't have
anything to say on the topic!
Any ideas where the revenue is?
Vanessa
http://smithholburn.fr...
Re: FN-FORUM Ezesurf
date posted 24th August 2000 21:39
> >> I hope no-one on this list relies is foolish enough to rely on these
for
> >> their business?? You get what you pay for.
> >
> > are you referring to ezesurf' or cheap/free surfing generally?
>...
Re: FN-FORUM Frontpage
date posted 24th August 2000 21:17
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At 18:23 24/08/00, mike karthauser wrote:
> > Okay as you may or may not know I'm on freelancers to improve my
> knowledge of
> > IT as I wish to speci...
Re: FN-FORUM Dual network cards puzzle
date posted 24th August 2000 21:17
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At 17:12 24/08/00, Peter Small wrote:
>Maybe I'm being very naive here, but, for the life of me I cannot see any
>value in people setting up their own...
Re: FN-FORUM Freelancer hourly charge rates
date posted 24th August 2000 21:17
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At 17:01 24/08/00, Peter Small wrote:
>As I read this situation, Ruth has a problem: getting customers to accept a
>deal that will bring her in a profit...
Re: FN-FORUM Frontpage
date posted 24th August 2000 21:17
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At 16:52 24/08/00, Marc Weaver wrote:
>It's true it can bloat your page a bit but I tend to use it in HTML view
>most of the time and edit out any unne...
RE: FN-FORUM Freelancer hourly charge rates
date posted 24th August 2000 21:17
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At 16:48 24/08/00, Peter Small wrote:
>Multiply
>this by the rate per hour such an expert would charge and this will
>represent the "right" basic costin...
Re: FN-FORUM Blue Tooth
date posted 24th August 2000 21:17
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At 16:40 24/08/00, Richard Osborne at DesignZONE wrote:
>Bluetooth is supposed to be the future of wireless - it's a consortium of
>companies including...
Re: FN-FORUM Frontpage
date posted 24th August 2000 21:17
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At 16:32 24/08/00, Richard Osborne at DesignZONE wrote:
>I thought Dreamweaver, Frontpage, etc. were all tools, and the people were
>the important bits...
RE: FN-FORUM Frontpage
date posted 24th August 2000 21:17
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At 16:26 24/08/00, Morgan Richards wrote:
>1) It is a microsoft product and therefore uses the IE proprietary tags,
>and FP server extentions. Now th...
RE: FN-FORUM Freelancer hourly charge rates
date posted 24th August 2000 21:12
Freelancers,
The trouble is, at the moment, it just doesn't make financial sense to them,
even if it turns out to be cheaper in the long term as a site maintenance
tool.
The real problem for me at...
Re: FN-FORUM How does one pop-up the pop-up?
date posted 24th August 2000 20:31
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CV
date posted 24th August 2000 20:30
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Re: FN-FORUM Re: To Ruth Arnold
date posted 24th August 2000 20:26
Thanks for that Jon! It doesn't look at all bad, so I'll definitely take a
closer look. :-)
It's a tricky business trying to sell the customer up to a more expensive
product once their expectations...
Re: FN-FORUM How does one pop-up the pop-up?
date posted 24th August 2000 19:42
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Colin,
The easi...
Re: FN-FORUM How does one pop-up the pop-up?
date posted 24th August 2000 19:39
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Hi Colin,
To po...
How does one pop-up the pop-up?
date posted 24th August 2000 19:08
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I have a...
Re: To Ruth Arnold
date posted 24th August 2000 19:05
Hi Ruth,
I am currently in negociations with an estate agents to what seems to be
similar to yours. At first they didn't want a database and so were offered a
low price on the project. Then they dec...
Re: FN-FORUM Peter's Server Question
date posted 24th August 2000 18:55
There's a point you reach when you realise that such and such a host will
not allow you / will not provide you with all the functionality that you or
your customers require.
Depending on what kind o...
Re: FN-FORUM Freelancer hourly charge rates
date posted 24th August 2000 18:48
A quick reply - honest ;-)
Martin's very good document on content management is very welcome (I already
link to it from my webmaster links page at www.spacehopper.com)
The problem is that Martin's...
Re: FN-FORUM Freelancer hourly charge rates
date posted 24th August 2000 18:34
This is perhaps an area where we can help each other.
I'm sure almost everyone on this list has been stung at some time or
another.
What does everyone think about the idea of a list of bad payers?...
Re: FN-FORUM Peter's Server Question
date posted 24th August 2000 18:06
I've been checking this kind of stuff out recently and there are all kinds
of different hosting deals around that take care of these kind of problems.
Certainly it seems you can get more security th...
Re: FN-FORUM Frontpage
date posted 24th August 2000 18:01
Damian
>...... you cannot call yourself a web designer unless you use Dreamweaver.<
Speaking as someone who uses this app', I would certainly agree with that
sentiment in it's general sense, whether...
Re: FN-FORUM Freelancer hourly charge rates
date posted 24th August 2000 18:01
From: martin burns [EMAIL REMOVED]
> And client size is no guarantee - had it happen from 2 of the largest
> companies in the UK.
Go on.....name names !!!!
later
Martin Woollatt
Martin, Lincs, UK...
Complicated technology
date posted 24th August 2000 18:01
From: martin burns [EMAIL REMOVED]
> At 12:19 24/08/00, Mart' Woollatt wrote:
> > >......>
> >
> >.......the greater the 'risk' that 'Joe Public' turns it's back o...
Re: FN-FORUM Frontpage
date posted 24th August 2000 17:30
> Okay as you may or may not know I'm on freelancers to improve my knowledge of
> IT as I wish to specialize in e marketing.
>So if I wish to start developing my own website (good exercise to underst...
Re: FN-FORUM Frontpage - Dreamweaver - etc
date posted 24th August 2000 17:29
Seen as how I've had to read 100 emails about the subject, some more
childish than others! thought I'd add my point:
Each to their own!
In answer to Damon question about which to use:
Give them a...
Peter's Server Question
date posted 24th August 2000 17:27
Peter,
One reason I can think of is if you need to run your own COM components on
the server. These provide an excellent way of encapsulating business logic
for a web application in a secure form b...
Re: FN-FORUM not frontpage anymore please we're bored of the subject...
date posted 24th August 2000 17:26
do you honestly think people won't join this list 'due to the prejudice
against FP users here'?
maybe I meant to say was 'rubbish'.
> On the other side of your e-mail there are people, not machines...
CV
date posted 24th August 2000 17:17
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Dear Sir or Madam,
Please find attached a copy of my CV.
If you could forw...
RE: FN-FORUM Frontpage
date posted 24th August 2000 17:17
reading these conversations have certainty brightened up my afternoon!! I'm
certainly learning loads!
Okay as you may or may not know I'm on freelancers to improve my knowledge
of IT as I wish to sp...
Re: FN-FORUM Dual network cards puzzle
date posted 24th August 2000 17:14
Maybe I'm being very naive here, but, for the life of me I cannot see any
value in people setting up their own servers.
There is such good value (and facilities) being offered for hosting that I
ju...
Re: FN-FORUM Frontpage
date posted 24th August 2000 17:13
> Depends - does the JCB come with instructions ?
Give me a call, I drove them for 6 years!!!
Maybe I shouldn't say that :-)
Damian Thomas...
Re: FN-FORUM Frontpage
date posted 24th August 2000 17:10
What you may not understand is some people don't like being told to grow up,
its not only rude but arrogant.
On the other side of your e-mail there are people, not machines, if you
didn't insult me...
Re: FN-FORUM Freelancer hourly charge rates
date posted 24th August 2000 17:03
Ruth Arnold wrote:
>
>>I can do the work OK, we've just set ourselves up a colocated (cold fusion)
>>server so that we can do these kind of jobs to our hearts content.... It's
>>just persuading the c...
RE: FN-FORUM Frontpage
date posted 24th August 2000 16:58
It comes with HTML help is that any good? ;p
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Re: FN-FORUM Frontpage
date posted 24th August 2000 16:58
Depends - does the JCB come with instructions ?
:-)
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RE: FN-FORUM Frontpage
date posted 24th August 2000 16:57
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RE: FN-FORUM Frontpage
date posted 24th August 2000 16:56
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Re: FN-FORUM Frontpage
date posted 24th August 2000 16:55
> P.S. Brightstorm doesn't seem to be working Mike.
Typical. Still waiting for that DNS to be pointed. Still it shows how
effective signatures are....
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Re: FN-FORUM Frontpage
date posted 24th August 2000 16:53
> So take a spoonful of your own medicine and grow up yourself Mike. I'm not in
> the list to get crap from people like you.
>
so where was the crap?
>>> I think I'm the only one who joins in this...
Re: FN-FORUM Frontpage
date posted 24th August 2000 16:51
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RE: FN-FORUM Freelancer hourly charge rates
date posted 24th August 2000 16:49
From a business strategy point of view, I would take the view that a job
had to be assessed as if it were being completed by a true expert who knew
what they were doing and knew all the short cuts an...
Re: FN-FORUM Frontpage
date posted 24th August 2000 16:45
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Re: FN-FORUM Blue Tooth
date posted 24th August 2000 16:41
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At 16:07 24/08/00, Damon Clark wrote:
>Would any body know anything about blue tooth?
>
>I believe it's a new protocol on wireless lans by Microsoft! An...
Re: FN-FORUM Blue Tooth
date posted 24th August 2000 16:40
Bluetooth is supposed to be the future of wireless - it's a consortium of
companies including Microsoft, Ericcson, Nokia and others. I used to have an
article somewhere but it appears I put it somewh...
Re: FN-FORUM Frontpage
date posted 24th August 2000 16:36
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At 15:54 24/08/00, Damian Thomas wrote:
>This always seems to crop up, and I'm putting myself in the line of fire
>here, but I have to disagree that yo...
RE: FN-FORUM Frontpage
date posted 24th August 2000 16:34
Ahh yes Richard you are right but if I asked you to dig up a 100x100x10 ft
whole and offered you a trowel or a JCB which would you choose?
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RE: FN-FORUM Blue Tooth
date posted 24th August 2000 16:33
oops and this
http://www.bluetooth.com/
Sam
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RE: FN-FORUM Blue Tooth
date posted 24th August 2000 16:32
This should help
http://www.microsoft.com/HWDEV/bluetooth/default.htm
Sam
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Re: FN-FORUM Frontpage
date posted 24th August 2000 16:31
I thought Dreamweaver, Frontpage, etc. were all tools, and the people were
the important bits of the system? Perhaps I got it wrong and the software
packages create websites by themselves.
P.S. Brig...
Re: FN-FORUM Freelancer hourly charge rates
date posted 24th August 2000 16:31
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At 15:53 24/08/00, Ruth Arnold wrote:
>I can do the work OK, we've just set ourselves up a colocated (cold fusion)
>server so that we can do these kind...
RE: FN-FORUM Frontpage
date posted 24th August 2000 16:28
Mike,
I don't think you delt with damian's email that well, I don't think that
dissing him will help anyone.
Damian, the reason that frontpage is not liked here is a number of reasons.
1) It i...
RE: FN-FORUM Ezesurf
date posted 24th August 2000 16:27
Is anyone using Unlimited Freeserve Time?
Is it any good?
Ray McGinty
=======================================================
Ray McGinty Information Design
specialising in design for the web, e-c...
Re: FN-FORUM Frontpage
date posted 24th August 2000 16:27
Ah, the cat's out of the bag now - it's the old anti-Microsoft rant. There
is still no substitute for understanding what your HTML is doing, DW or FP
(or whatever) are tools and it is a bad workperso...
Re: FN-FORUM Frontpage
date posted 24th August 2000 16:25
First of all, I thought I had thanked you - If I didn't THANKYOU.
Secondly, making a point is by no means being childish, if you think so
that's your problem.
Don't insult what I have to say, like e...
RE: FN-FORUM Frontpage
date posted 24th August 2000 16:23
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I agree that the an...
Blue Tooth
date posted 24th August 2000 16:11
Would any body know anything about blue tooth?
I believe it's a new protocol on wireless lans by Microsoft! Any idea
whether it's going ahead and what the benefits will be?
Damon Clark
Marketing...
RE: FN-FORUM Ezesurf
date posted 24th August 2000 16:09
>> I hope no-one on this list relies is foolish enough to rely on these for
>> their business?? You get what you pay for.
>
> are you referring to ezesurf' or cheap/free surfing generally?
The latte...
Re: FN-FORUM Frontpage
date posted 24th August 2000 16:07
>There's plenty using FP, unfortunately for me there's none here because you
scared them off!
r u still using that f frontpage?
>But no-one can call themselves a designer just because their using...
'how to survive?'
date posted 24th August 2000 16:02
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Re: FN-FORUM Freelancer hourly charge rates
date posted 24th August 2000 15:52
Thanks Martin,
I can do the work OK, we've just set ourselves up a colocated (cold fusion)
server so that we can do these kind of jobs to our hearts content.... It's
just persuading the customers th...
Frontpage
date posted 24th August 2000 15:48
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Re: FN-FORUM Dual network cards puzzle
date posted 24th August 2000 15:36
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At 15:15 24/08/00, David Nye wrote:
>I have a small client who shares their admin operator with another company
>in a shared office. Both companies will...
Re: FN-FORUM Dual network cards puzzle
date posted 24th August 2000 15:28
On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, David Nye wrote:
>
> Is a Win2000 Pro system with 2 network cards (connected to 2 separate small
> hubs) a sensible choice for the admin machine? Will segmenting the network
> i...
Re: FN-FORUM Freelancer hourly charge rates
date posted 24th August 2000 15:27
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At 14:38 24/08/00, Ruth Arnold wrote:
>I am always, always in favour of the customer administering their own web
>site, wherever possible, so I am tryin...
Dual network cards puzzle
date posted 24th August 2000 15:15
I have a small client who shares their admin operator with another company
in a shared office. Both companies will have 2 Win98 PC's, plus a new
machine for the admin op. One company already has a pe...
rates etc
date posted 24th August 2000 15:04
Just to add another twopenn'orth to the hourly rates debate - the CD/asf
task Ruth talks about would take me 20-30mins, because I've done it before
and have all the right software. Obviously I wouldn...
design rates
date posted 24th August 2000 14:59
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Re: FN-FORUM Freelancer hourly charge rates
date posted 24th August 2000 14:38
OK, fair enough Peter ;-)
Though you'd be surprised at the amount of customers I have had who haven't
got any of the right equipment... They don't even have a full install of IE4
so they don't even...
Re: FN-FORUM Ezesurf
date posted 24th August 2000 14:34
intersting just got through to ezesurf', someone with a twangy north
american accent (no pun intended) basically a brick wall, saying to look at
their web page and they have no estimation of when the...
Re: FN-FORUM Freelancer hourly charge rates
date posted 24th August 2000 14:31
on 24/8/2000 11:49 am, Peter McCormack at [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote:
> Quite an interesting debate between designers and programmers, I put it to
> you like this:
>
> Do you think Porsche, with their g...
Re: FN-FORUM Ezesurf
date posted 24th August 2000 14:15
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At 13:54 24/08/00, Nic Smith wrote:
>But still, its better than paying for your calls. It's all free..
>
>Free connection, free calls, free subscription...
RE: FN-FORUM Ezesurf
date posted 24th August 2000 14:05
*S*, yeah, at home I still use my trusty 28.8 Modem with downloads speeds of
up to 2K if I'm really lucky
It always nice to be connecting at 128k at
work...hehehe...shame it's too
expensive...
RE: FN-FORUM Ezesurf
date posted 24th August 2000 13:57
It always nice to be connecting at 128k at work...hehehe...shame it's too
expensive else I would have ISDN or ADSL at home....(which would be nice)
I rely on free ISP for free surfing at home, but...
FN-FORUM Ezesurf
date posted 24th August 2000 13:51
I also agree with Nicki.
NTL World is certainly the best ISP package out there in terms of price.
I have never had problems with connection although I do have problems
achieving a hich connection s...
RE: FN-FORUM Freelancer hourly charge rates
date posted 24th August 2000 13:50
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At 13:07 24/08/00, Marion Chappell wrote:
> >>I don't work through agencies. They only exist to provide X with Y and
>take
> >>a 20%+ cut in the financi...
RE: FN-FORUM Freelancer hourly charge rates
date posted 24th August 2000 13:50
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Re: FN-FORUM Freelancer hourly charge rates
date posted 24th August 2000 13:45
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At 12:47 24/08/00, Richard Osborne at DesignZONE wrote:
> > Actually, a far better web application is news - all the big web events in
> > the last few...
RE: FN-FORUM Ezesurf
date posted 24th August 2000 13:45
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Re: FN-FORUM Freelancer hourly charge rates
date posted 24th August 2000 13:41
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>
>.......the greater the 'risk' that 'Joe Public' turns it's back on the
>ind...
Re: FN-FORUM Ezesurf
date posted 24th August 2000 13:40
> I hope no-one on this list relies is foolish enough to rely on these for
> their business?? You get what you pay for.
are you referring to ezesurf' or cheap/free surfing generally?...
RE: FN-FORUM Ezesurf
date posted 24th August 2000 13:21
I rely on free ISP for free surfing at home, but have a nice, big fat pipe
here *S*
I hope no-one on this list relies is foolish enough to rely
on these for
their business?? You get what you p...
RE: FN-FORUM Freelancer hourly charge rates
date posted 24th August 2000 13:15
Ruth,
>Don't want to sound pedantic here or anything Peter, but what you were
>saying did bear some dissection and a reply.
No problem with that.
I said - "I don't think there's going to be much mo...
RE: FN-FORUM Ezesurf
date posted 24th August 2000 13:07
>If ezesurf are now out to the bank manager, who else offers
> the best free/nearly surfing packages?
I hope no-one on this list relies is foolish enough to rely on these for
their business?? You ge...
RE: FN-FORUM Freelancer hourly charge rates
date posted 24th August 2000 13:07
martin burns said on 24 August 2000 11:09
>
>>I don't work through agencies. They only exist to provide X with Y and
take
>>a 20%+ cut in the financial transaction. It's demeaning.
>Believe me, Mari...
RE: FN-FORUM NTL
date posted 24th August 2000 13:03
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NTL
date posted 24th August 2000 12:59
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Re: FN-FORUM Freelancer hourly charge rates
date posted 24th August 2000 12:55
> I don't think there's going to be much money in producing simple static
> sites now because the tools available make it much easier to do. You
don't
> have to spend a lot of time training or spend...
Re: FN-FORUM Freelancer hourly charge rates
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Hi
From: Peter Ebdon
.......the greater the 'risk' that 'Joe Public' turns it's back on the
industry, perhaps ? Not a dig I hasten to add, just a thought from someon...
Re: FN-FORUM Freelancer hourly charge rates
date posted 24th August 2000 12:48
> Actually, a far better web application is news - all the big web events in
> the last few months
> (Concorde, NastyNick, England winning at cricket) have been 'now' things.
Fair enough, but I was...
Re: FN-FORUM Freelancer hourly charge rates
date posted 24th August 2000 12:43
Hi guys,
Don't want to sound pedantic here or anything Peter, but what you were
saying did bear some dissection and a reply. I don't think I was
misinterpreting you per se, I just wasn't agreeing wi...
RE: FN-FORUM Ezesurf
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IF and I...
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date posted 24th August 2000 12:35
Another query, I want the size of the browser box to reflect the size of the
Flash movie, how do you define the site of the browser box when you click on
a link, and secondly i don't want any of the...
Re: FN-FORUM Flash help
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> > Hi there,
> > Can anyone help me with a Flash problem I have, basically I have an event
> which occurs once the mouse rolls over a button, and then I have an action
> occur once the mouse roles o...
RE: FN-FORUM Ezesurf
date posted 24th August 2000 12:24
There are rumours of AOL releasing a 0800 £10 flat rate OSP.... but only
rumours..
Morgan...
Re: FN-FORUM Ezesurf
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If ezesurf are now out to the bank manager, who else offers the best
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jim...
RE: FN-FORUM Freelancer hourly charge rates
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>Quite an interesting debate between designers and programmers
It wasn't a debate between programmers and designers. It was Ruth
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date posted 24th August 2000 12:00
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jim
>same here..I use them, still down..they are bugger's to get any info from,
>but here's the technical support no £1.00 a minute.
>0870 44442145 Andy marston
>let 'us know if you get any res
T...
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RE: FN-FORUM Access analyst/programmer rates
date posted 24th August 2000 11:53
I estimate and quote fixed prices in a similar way to Nic, but also
adjusting for "complexity" (purely experience of "this kind of thing took
longer than expected last time"), re-use of "one I made e...
Re: FN-FORUM Ezesurf
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Appears that way.........I have managed at least 300 quids worth since I
signed up!
jim...
Re: FN-FORUM Freelancer hourly charge rates
date posted 24th August 2000 11:53
Quite an interesting debate between designers and programmers, I put it to
you like this:
Do you think Porsche, with their great engines would sell as many cars if
they had a crap design? No course...
Re: FN-FORUM Ezesurf
date posted 24th August 2000 11:32
Hi, Kif here...
I have been using eze-surf for a month or two and they were absolutely great
but now I think they have gone !
All their access lines are beeeeeeeeeeeeep unobtainable !
All their phon...
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Re: FN-FORUM Ezesurf
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same here..I use them, still down..they are bugger's to get any info from,
but here's the technical support no £1.00 a minute.
0870 44442145 Andy marston
let 'us know if you get any results,
thanks...
Re: FN-FORUM Access analyst/programmer rates
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£50 per hour is a good 'ball park' figure, same here.
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Re: FN-FORUM Freelancer hourly charge rates
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>
> They seem to think that Entertainment is where the web is going, and I'm tempted to agree with them.
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*they* used to think that about...
RE: FN-FORUM Freelancer hourly charge rates
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RE: FN-FORUM Access analyst/programmer rates
date posted 24th August 2000 10:57
We do our rating on how long we reckon the project to take. Because we are a
small business, a part goes to each shareholder of the company (two of us)
and the last part goes towards the company. I d...
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> How many customers, or agencies, can tell whether they are getting
> a competitive price for the actual result they get?
To reply to this in parts:
> How many customers...
I don't have customers...
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Re: FN-FORUM Hosting
date posted 24th August 2000 10:44
I'm currently helping to run the UK department for a server company.
If anyone does need anything then I'll try to give you any information I
can.
We currently run Linux RedHat on our main servers...
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Re: FN-FORUM Access analyst/programmer rates
date posted 24th August 2000 10:29
Hmm, I quote based on nothing more scientific than gut-instinct and
experience. If I'm really not sure how long something will take I usually do
a dummy run if I have time, before putting the quote i...
Re: FN-FORUM Freelancer hourly charge rates
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Re: FN-FORUM Flash help
date posted 24th August 2000 10:17
On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, Peter McCormack wrote:
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> Can anyone help me with a Flash problem I have, basically I have an event which occurs once the mouse rolls over a button, and then I have a...
RE: FN-FORUM Flash help
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Ezesurf
date posted 24th August 2000 10:08
Does anyone know what's going on at Ezesurf? The freephone dial up access
number appears to have been disconnected.
I got through to the help desk yesterday and was told there was a server
fault a...
Re: FN-FORUM Freelancer hourly charge rates
date posted 24th August 2000 10:06
I can see what you are getting at Peter and the problem is a real one. I
don't do contracting work myself as I work at home and find my own
customers, so those questions you raise don't apply so much...
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Re: FN-FORUM Meet in Oxford
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Nick,
I'll be coming along.
Regards,
Ian.
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RE: FN-FORUM Freelancer hourly charge rates
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Peter,
You say :
".It's up to us freelancers and consultancies to convince customers that
using
agency contractors should be the absolute last resort. We also need to
educate the agencies that the...
rates (again)
date posted 24th August 2000 09:48
I personally don't like to disclose my hourly rate to clients it turns my
skills into something they can buy any where and I am not a number blah,
blah.
I quote on the whole project and normally tel...
RE: FN-FORUM Access analyst/programmer rates
date posted 24th August 2000 09:47
Hmmmm...It seems my rates aren't as high as everyone else's. I quote based on the work required.
If it is a big job that will take 4+ weeks then I will quote quite low (as low as £25 per hour). Howe...
Design rates, programming rates.
date posted 24th August 2000 09:33
A company once told me that a new website, from scratch, of 10 pages was 10,000 job, that is 1,000 per page.
Needless to say their clients tended to be large companies, and they were giving the clie...
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I don't think there...
RE: FN-FORUM Freelancer hourly charge rates
date posted 24th August 2000 09:30
>Are customers and agencies conscious of this vast differencies in the
>ability of people to produce results?
Agencies don't seem to be. Many are completely ignorant of the skills that
they are selli...
RE: FN-FORUM Translator required for quote purposes
date posted 24th August 2000 09:27
Nic,
try www.alphalingua.de
The company is located in Germany/Berlin, but the owner is British
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Re: FN-FORUM Freelancer hourly charge rates
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I have split this into 2 parts..it's a bit lengthy!
2) I feel that in regard to 'general web design' then your average agency
hasn't existed
long enough to 'sus' out the abilities of a designer and...
Translator required for quote purposes
date posted 24th August 2000 08:49
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Freelancer hourly charge rates
date posted 24th August 2000 07:22
I'm somewhat mystified by this whole hourly charge rate system. What does
it actually mean? It's very much like the problem of "How long is a piece
of string?"
Some experienced programmers charge £...
Re: FN-FORUM Meet in Oxford
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I'll be there too as long as I can work out where it is!
I can't seem to get the map linked from the pubs website.
Den
> Yes, we're still on for the 31st at the Talhouse, if that's OK with
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Re: FN-FORUM Design rates
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