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RE: FN-FORUM Scroll Bars / flash HOORAY!
date posted 24th January 2001 15:03
Exuse me, is there something wrong with you, I have discussed things with
people, all I have heard from you is
>>Peter McSmallDick
>>You Insulting no mothing nothing prick
This is a very childish, small minded attempt to get at me and is really
doing you no credit, you come across as a very little person. I have been
out and got my own work before anyway.
I have apologised to people who I have unfortunately offended, but you are a
different matter altoghether, how old are you?
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew [EMAIL REMOVED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 2:31 PM
To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
Subject: RE: FN-FORUM Scroll Bars / flash HOORAY!
I have no doubt everyone has read your tripe and your endless pathetic
attemtp to apologise if you love a good argument for the sake of an
argument and not for know jack shit. How long would you survive if you had
to go out and get your own work. I mean really go out and get your own
work. you insulting no mothing nothing prick
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter McCormack [EMAIL REMOVED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 1:35 PM
To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
Subject: RE: FN-FORUM Scroll Bars / flash HOORAY!
>> Peter mcsmalldick - Please grow up for christs sake, I have never
directly made any insulting or degrading comments to anyone, but your
little
funny comment just shows your maturity level. Have you been reading
everything I have put. I advice clients to sell in an appropraite manner
that suits them. I have not resulted to small minded insults at you.
Critisism and insults are two completely different things.
Really I am truly surprised to see someone put that.
Again I iterate, I tell people to use Flash where appropriate.
Nice one child
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew [EMAIL REMOVED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 11:07 AM
To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
Subject: RE: FN-FORUM Scroll Bars / flash HOORAY!
very interesting... It seems Peter Mcsmalldick didn't quite get the Disney
joke, animating a fairy tale!..a story not true to life and the real
world.. looks good (if done properly) on the outside, if this is how you
advise how people should sell on the www then your standards and ethics are
almost certainly in question.
I am looking forward to reading all the support you have been getting....
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter McCormack [EMAIL REMOVED]
Sent: 23 January 2001 20:05
To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
Subject: Re: FN-FORUM Scroll Bars / flash HOORAY!
I have never heard such a bunch of Granddad arguments, I mean come on,
Flash
has much more depth to it than 'pretty pictures', and you
>> I think this says it all... who do you work for? Walt Disney
Well that's a ignorant comment if I have ever heard one, what the hell do
you know about design, honestly what do you know? Anything, brand values?
do
you know what they are. The amount of sites that people ask to have
comments
made on on this forum which look crap is astonishing, I have to old back as
to not offend anyone, but most look terrible, don't get me wrong they work
fine.
Design is all about selling the product through the use of emotion, you use
peoples emotions, I can't believe the amount of people who are trying to
argue content over design, they go hand in hand. It was a breath of fresh
air when Bob Gentle showed his site today, it was actually one that was
pleasnig to look at, the main problem is that many people are working on
fine price lines and do not subcontarct any work. If you are a shit
designer
don't argue content over design just to save yourself the hiring of someone
else, admit your crap and employ a designer because design is so important.
People don't buy the new Audi TT because it has a good engine, they buy it
because it looks good, people don't wear designer gear because it will last
longer, they buy it because it looks nice, face it we live in a world
dominated by materialism, (unless most of you drive a Sierra and shop in
Debenhams). You are not going to sell a product on the net just by having
the information they require, you have to reach to their emotional needs.
This is done through colour, images and with Flash motion, not a nice HTML
page which downloads in a second and is full of information.
As a designer, I know for a fact that Flash is the best product on the web
for reaching peoples emotional needs, it is not require on sites like
Amazon
and Yahoo because they have a simple function, but anyone who is selling a
desirable product cannot just overlook Flash.
Not one person hear has spoke like they truly understand Flash, when Flash
became commercial, many jobs were rushed without thinking about what was
trying to be achieved. Flash is an extremely diverse product which can
operate in many different forms and perform many different functions, any
debate on the subject is only worth having with people who do know what
they
are talking about.
Again, back to your point about who do I work for, who do you work for???
What clients do you work for??? Mateys Dentist and your Neighbours pub,
nice.
Your ignorance about design and especially about a product which you are
trying to build valid arguments on surprises me.
What also surprises me is your ignorance to retail when in fact you are
generally building retail environments, retail is about providing a
consumer
want, content is not king.
Please learn your topic before arguing it
Peter McCormack
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