Re: FN-FORUM MySQL Question

date posted 13th April 2001 14:28

darren there never was a 'real' english, we're mainly descended from
millinnia of immigrants from prehistoric eurasian settlers to the nordic
tribes to the romans. whats happening now is that we're coming more varied.
there has been an almost constant influx of new people and ideas for over 5
centuries now.

i hear a lot about the 'empire' and 'imperial measurements' being held up as
some shining example of sunny english day and its all bullshit - we signed
up in the 1800's (1886 i think) for the gradual implementation of SI units
to replace the increasingly ludicrous and highly impractical imperial
measurements to the more advanced metric scale.

the empire was an overbearing and dictatorial system that destroyed a great
deal of africa and asia as we and other european nations battled for
supremecy over resources while the natives suffered, they had christendom
inflicted upon them as well as new boundaries and borders destroying a
geopolitical systems that had been relatively stable for centuries. im not
even going to go into the local science we oblitered in the name of
'progress'

the empire was a haven for bullies, peodophiles and rapists during the
hypocritical victorian times and when it collpased we left the resulting
mess for others to deal with and our proud empire invented concetration
camps to shove the boers into.

even today that imperial arrogance abounds as many football supporters seem
to think england are a great football team despite the fact its been 35
years since we won the world cup. we've trained the likes of idi amin and
jump to americas commands.

btw, national pride was behind the rise of the nazis - the treaty of
versailles left the already shattered germany even worse off while the
french stole what they wanted from german energy reserves, the germans
though the jew was behind their every ill (a bit like many brits when europe
and immigration is mentioned) which is why they liked the national socialism
so much. so beware that hubris, it can lead to a repeat of past evils.

also for any anti-europeans, go see inner-city refurbishments, new
developments and also the influx of eduactional courses available to people
who would normally not be able to attend. note the blue rectangle eith
'ESA' on it.

sermon over! :) (abck to the usual now? as i doubt this is the forum for
such a debate!)

dave ecky
----- Original Message -----
From: "Darren Spink" [EMAIL REMOVED]
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Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 6:07 PM
Subject: RE: FN-FORUM MySQL Question


> OK...I know...It's my fault...I started all of this...
>
> I think I will have a tick box which I will translate into 0/1. The only
> place where I am going to be asking for names is for an email/info request
> type thing and primarily, this site will be English for use in the UK.
> Hopefully if it works well and finds a market, I will look into developing
> it for foreign markets (starting with English speakers probably).
>
> As for the name request thread that emerged. I know we are all meant to
be
> understanding...all meant to be together....all just good happy chums...
I
> am firstly A YORKSHIREMAN, secondly an ENGLISHMAN and thirdly BRITISH. I
> used to work for many years with many European countries and I have no
> problem with the individuality of any country. I think that what is
> happening more and more is the UK is being expected to excuse itself for
> being who it is.
>
> I am not sure on the feelings of others in the group, but I was (until
> recently) proud of my country and my heritage. I am not interested in
> laying down what little we have left so some other country can tell us
what
> we can and can't do... I know this probably sounds racist, but I am truly
> not that way. I am also not a believer in violence, but my grandparents
> fought in the world wars, this was a war about power and control. Now
some
> 45+ years later we have no real manufacturing base left, we have a foreign
> royal family (to all intents and purposes). We have no nationality, so
how
> can we have national pride.
>
> The British empire and national pride died and were buried many years ago.
> we just didn't realise it.
>
>
> Regards
>
>
> Darren Spink
>
> P.S.
>
> Do you think under new EU rules...they will have to rename the Genesis
Album
> "Selling England by the pound" to "Selling England by the 400g" ??
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL REMOVED]
> [EMAIL REMOVED] Behalf Of David Nye
> Sent: 12 April 2001 10:15
> To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
> Subject: RE: FN-FORUM MySQL Question
>
>
> I believe that the original question was about how to store a boolean
value
> in the back end database. Peter prefers Y/N because when most people look
at
> the raw data they will find this easier to scan. However, using a "native"
> boolean value has the advantage that the database will process it more
> efficiently, and most database management tools and programming interfaces
> will as well.
>
> I think Peter's preference probably derives from the specific databases
and
> tools he has personally used. Mine derives from having international
clients
> with over sensitive and illogical foreign employees. After all, the field
> name/tag is going to be in English, so what are they on about anyway?
>
> But I would also point out that any decent development environment SHOULD
be
> able to display the "raw" data from a boolean field in any way the
> developer/user prefers (or at least in an accepted standard format for the
> language being used, and with the ability to translate the field name).
>
> Regarding the people naming sub-thread, I think we are discussing Engish
> language field tags, so would question the relevance of non-English
speaking
> naming conventions? Personally I prefer "Surname" and "Forenames" on
English
> language input forms. I would be interested to hear which Engish speaking
> users might object to this?
>
> David Nye
> http://dnye.com
> Business Systems, Database & Internet Applications Design & Development.
> Microsoft SQL Server, Access, ASP & VB Programming.
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