Re: FN-FORUM MySQL Question

date posted 13th April 2001 15:08

A very erudite sermon indeed, were you a social historian in a previous
life? This may not be regarded as the right forum for such a debate, but
everyone should be made aware of a few truths..... I'm just glad I didn't
have to type it ;-)
Paul.

P J White
www.BW3.co.uk
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----- Original Message -----
From: "ecky" [EMAIL REMOVED]
To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: FN-FORUM MySQL Question


> darren there never was a 'real' english, we're mainly descended from
> millinnia of immigrants from prehistoric eurasian settlers to the nordic
> tribes to the romans. whats happening now is that we're coming more
varied.
> there has been an almost constant influx of new people and ideas for over
5
> centuries now.
>
> i hear a lot about the 'empire' and 'imperial measurements' being held up
as
> some shining example of sunny english day and its all bullshit - we signed
> up in the 1800's (1886 i think) for the gradual implementation of SI units
> to replace the increasingly ludicrous and highly impractical imperial
> measurements to the more advanced metric scale.
>
> the empire was an overbearing and dictatorial system that destroyed a
great
> deal of africa and asia as we and other european nations battled for
> supremecy over resources while the natives suffered, they had christendom
> inflicted upon them as well as new boundaries and borders destroying a
> geopolitical systems that had been relatively stable for centuries. im
not
> even going to go into the local science we oblitered in the name of
> 'progress'
>
> the empire was a haven for bullies, peodophiles and rapists during the
> hypocritical victorian times and when it collpased we left the resulting
> mess for others to deal with and our proud empire invented concetration
> camps to shove the boers into.
>
> even today that imperial arrogance abounds as many football supporters
seem
> to think england are a great football team despite the fact its been 35
> years since we won the world cup. we've trained the likes of idi amin and
> jump to americas commands.
>
> btw, national pride was behind the rise of the nazis - the treaty of
> versailles left the already shattered germany even worse off while the
> french stole what they wanted from german energy reserves, the germans
> though the jew was behind their every ill (a bit like many brits when
europe
> and immigration is mentioned) which is why they liked the national
socialism
> so much. so beware that hubris, it can lead to a repeat of past evils.
>
> also for any anti-europeans, go see inner-city refurbishments, new
> developments and also the influx of eduactional courses available to
people
> who would normally not be able to attend. note the blue rectangle eith
> 'ESA' on it.
>
> sermon over! :) (abck to the usual now? as i doubt this is the forum for
> such a debate!)
>
> dave ecky
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Darren Spink" [EMAIL REMOVED]
> To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 6:07 PM
> Subject: RE: FN-FORUM MySQL Question
>
>
> > OK...I know...It's my fault...I started all of this...
> >
> > I think I will have a tick box which I will translate into 0/1. The
only
> > place where I am going to be asking for names is for an email/info
request
> > type thing and primarily, this site will be English for use in the UK.
> > Hopefully if it works well and finds a market, I will look into
developing
> > it for foreign markets (starting with English speakers probably).
> >
> > As for the name request thread that emerged. I know we are all meant to
> be
> > understanding...all meant to be together....all just good happy chums...
> I
> > am firstly A YORKSHIREMAN, secondly an ENGLISHMAN and thirdly BRITISH.
I
> > used to work for many years with many European countries and I have no
> > problem with the individuality of any country. I think that what is
> > happening more and more is the UK is being expected to excuse itself for
> > being who it is.
> >
> > I am not sure on the feelings of others in the group, but I was (until
> > recently) proud of my country and my heritage. I am not interested in
> > laying down what little we have left so some other country can tell us
> what
> > we can and can't do... I know this probably sounds racist, but I am
truly
> > not that way. I am also not a believer in violence, but my grandparents
> > fought in the world wars, this was a war about power and control. Now
> some
> > 45+ years later we have no real manufacturing base left, we have a
foreign
> > royal family (to all intents and purposes). We have no nationality, so
> how
> > can we have national pride.
> >
> > The British empire and national pride died and were buried many years
ago.
> > we just didn't realise it.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > Darren Spink
> >
> > P.S.
> >
> > Do you think under new EU rules...they will have to rename the Genesis
> Album
> > "Selling England by the pound" to "Selling England by the 400g" ??
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL REMOVED]
> > [EMAIL REMOVED] Behalf Of David Nye
> > Sent: 12 April 2001 10:15
> > To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
> > Subject: RE: FN-FORUM MySQL Question
> >
> >
> > I believe that the original question was about how to store a boolean
> value
> > in the back end database. Peter prefers Y/N because when most people
look
> at
> > the raw data they will find this easier to scan. However, using a
"native"
> > boolean value has the advantage that the database will process it more
> > efficiently, and most database management tools and programming
interfaces
> > will as well.
> >
> > I think Peter's preference probably derives from the specific databases
> and
> > tools he has personally used. Mine derives from having international
> clients
> > with over sensitive and illogical foreign employees. After all, the
field
> > name/tag is going to be in English, so what are they on about anyway?
> >
> > But I would also point out that any decent development environment
SHOULD
> be
> > able to display the "raw" data from a boolean field in any way the
> > developer/user prefers (or at least in an accepted standard format for
the
> > language being used, and with the ability to translate the field name).
> >
> > Regarding the people naming sub-thread, I think we are discussing Engish
> > language field tags, so would question the relevance of non-English
> speaking
> > naming conventions? Personally I prefer "Surname" and "Forenames" on
> English
> > language input forms. I would be interested to hear which Engish
speaking
> > users might object to this?
> >
> > David Nye
> > http://dnye.com
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