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Re: FN-FORUM Weird Mail !
date posted 16th July 2001 19:32
Um.. Don't quite get what you mean? I've seen your name before so I'm sure
you know that you are subbed to a mailing list, so what is the problem?
On 16/07/01 04:06 pm, "Kerry dzinezone" [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote:
> Can anyone included in this e-mail throw any light onto why I received it
> direct to my address [EMAIL REMOVED] ?!?!?!
>
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> From: Paul Cooklin (Egroups) [EMAIL REMOVED]
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> Subject: Re: FN-FORUM non payers
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> Rob,
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> I've sent you an email. Hope it helps. Keep me posted.
>
> Paul.
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: Rob Garbutt=20
> To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 3:16 PM
> Subject: Re: FN-FORUM non payers
>
>
> that would be great if I could see the letter. How do I take out a =
> ccj? =20
>
> Robin Garbutt
> Portfolio Art & Design Ltd
> Tel - +44 (0) 1204 383822
> Fax - +44 (0) 1204 383866
> Mob - +44 (0) 7811 185490
> e-mail - [EMAIL REMOVED]
>
> For further information please visit us at :-
> www.portfoliodesign.net
>
> The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the ordinary user of =
> the
> e-mail address to which it was addressed and may also be privileged. =
> If you
> are not the addressee of this e-mail you may not copy, forward, =
> disclose or
> otherwise use it or any part of it in any form whatsoever. If you have
> received this e-mail in error please e-mail the sender.
>
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: Paul Cooklin (Egroups)=20
> To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 2:03 PM
> Subject: Re: FN-FORUM non payers
>
>
> I had a client once who commissioned my company to design their =
> site. I told them ( in person) that the site would be completed in about =
> two weeks. I also said that I would require a deposit of 20%. They/he =
> said that he wanted to pay in full when the site was done and that he =
> didn't have the money now, would it be OK to pay in two weeks as it =
> coincided with when he would have the money. I trusted him and we shook =
> hands. To cut a long story short, I completed 95% of the site but was =
> waiting for an 0800 number he was getting to add to his site, He stalled =
> and stalled, telling me the cheque was in the post, his mother has it =
> and is sending it, the bank has issued it, bla bla bla. Four months =
> later I still handn't been paid. I asked nicely, I asked again and again =
> and still excuses. I finally spoke to a lawyer who told me categorically =
> that even if I didn't have a written contract, we had a verbal one and =
> this would stand up in court. Also, that he could slap a county court =
> judgement on them which would ruin his credit record for 7 years ( no =
> loans etc, bad debt) When I threatened him with this he got really =
> shirty but in the end he paid me in full. I realised that even if you =
> like the client, get good feelings from them that I should of got a =
> deposit or at least a written contract, not to prove anything but it =
> would make the client feel as if they had to pay. I realised that I =
> didn't NEED one after speaking with my lawyer, but it's a good idea. So, =
> I would suggest you threaten him/them with a CCJ and see what comes =
> back. My bet is that they will pay.
>
> Hope it helps.
>
> If you need the letter from my lawyer, I can send it to you.
>
> Paul.
>
>
>
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> Rob,
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> I've sent you an email. Hope it helps. Keep me=20
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>
> Paul.
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> [EMAIL REMOVED]
> Garbutt
> To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
> =
> [EMAIL REMOVED]@freelancers.net A>=20
>
> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 =
> 3:16 PM
> Subject: Re: FN-FORUM non =
> payers
>
> that would be great if I could see =
> the =20
> letter. How do I take out a ccj?
> Robin GarbuttPortfolio Art & Design LtdTel =
> - +44=20
> (0) 1204 383822Fax - +44 (0) 1204 383866Mob - +44 (0) 7811=20
> 185490e-mail - =
> [EMAIL REMOVED]@portfoliodesign.net=
>
>
> For further information please visit us at :- =
> href=3D"http://www.portfoliodesign.net">www.portfoliodesign.net=
>
>
> The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the ordinary user =
> of=20
> thee-mail address to which it was addressed and may also be =
> privileged. If=20
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>
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> [EMAIL REMOVED] Cooklin =
> (Egroups)
> To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
> =
> [EMAIL REMOVED]@freelancers.net A>=20
>
> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 =
> 2:03=20
> PM
> Subject: Re: FN-FORUM non =
> payers
>
> I had a client once who commissioned my company =
> to design=20
> their site. I told them ( in person) that the site would be =
> completed in=20
> about two weeks. I also said that I would require a deposit of 20%. =
> They/he=20
> said that he wanted to pay in full when the site was done and that =
> he didn't=20
> have the money now, would it be OK to pay in two weeks as it =
> coincided with=20
> when he would have the money. I trusted him and we shook hands. To =
> cut a=20
> long story short, I completed 95% of the site but was waiting for an =
> 0800=20
> number he was getting to add to his site, He stalled and stalled, =
> telling me=20
> the cheque was in the post, his mother has it and is sending it, the =
> bank=20
> has issued it, bla bla bla. Four months later I still handn't been =
> paid. I=20
> asked nicely, I asked again and again and still excuses. I finally =
> spoke to=20
> a lawyer who told me categorically that even if I didn't have a =
> written=20
> contract, we had a verbal one and this would stand up in court. =
> Also, that=20
> he could slap a county court judgement on them which would ruin his =
> credit=20
> record for 7 years ( no loans etc, bad debt) When I threatened him =
> with this=20
> he got really shirty but in the end he paid me in full. I realised =
> that even=20
> if you like the client, get good feelings from them that I should of =
> got a=20
> deposit or at least a written contract, not to prove anything but it =
> would=20
> make the client feel as if they had to pay. I realised that I didn't =
> NEED=20
> one after speaking with my lawyer, but it's a good idea. So, I would =
> suggest=20
> you threaten him/them with a CCJ and see what comes back. My bet is =
> that=20
> they will pay.
>
> Hope it helps.
>
> If you need the letter from my lawyer, I can =
> send it to=20
> you.
>
> Paul.
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