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Freelancers Forum Messages on Saturday July 13th 2002

RE: FN-FORUM General Question

date posted 13th July 2002 23:36

The only way you'll ever stay in business is by satisfying the client. Everyone else, including yourself, comes second. Stuart. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL REMOVED] [EMAIL REMOVED] Beh...

Re General Question

date posted 13th July 2002 23:35

Thanks guys, I appreciate all comments no matter how unhelpful or hurtful as I think getting feedback is important and if you try and limit comments to the helpful criticism type you often just sti...

RE: FN-FORUM sales people

date posted 13th July 2002 23:25

Now come on. Cold emailed. It doesn't get the terrified stuttering effect that went down so well. I probably got sympathy sales to start with but so what. There's no real substitute to actually press...

RE: FN-FORUM General Question

date posted 13th July 2002 23:07

John, Don't worry about comments from the flash designers, let them swill their capucchinos. If the client is happy that is the main thing. Ian -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL REMOVED] [EM...

Re: FN-FORUM General Question

date posted 13th July 2002 22:58

The statement below is not true! Or at least it doesn't have to be. Dan http://www.dancook.co.uk [EMAIL REMOVED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carla Boulton" [EMAIL REMOVED] To: [EMAIL REMOVE...

RE: FN-FORUM BNI (again!)

date posted 13th July 2002 22:54

Lindsey, Definitely worth the joining fee, I have had over 6K in jobs out of BNI in the last year, and have another 4K of quotes out from BNI referrals. I think that the return on investment is abou...

Re: FN-FORUM General Question

date posted 13th July 2002 22:46

More importantly you need to get used to cruel and truthful criticism of your work if you ask opinions here. It's the life of a designer. Regards Carla www.wateroffaducksback.com on 13/7/02 8:15 pm,...

Re: FN-FORUM General Question

date posted 13th July 2002 22:42

on 13/7/02 8:15 pm, john anslow at [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > Here's Johnny :-) > > what do people think is more important, you and your peers opinions of > the work you do or the clients? Who pays...

Re: FN-FORUM sales people

date posted 13th July 2002 22:35

Stuart Wright wrote: >I forced myself to pickup the phone many years ago to get my business off >the ground and found it wasn't quite as bad as I had expected. Many business people I cold called were...

Re: FN-FORUM sales people

date posted 13th July 2002 22:27

on 13/7/02 9:06 pm, Stuart Wright at [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > > I realise this may not apply to yourselves, but I even walked round all the > local business parks and office blocks to introduce myse...

Re: FN-FORUM General Question

date posted 13th July 2002 22:27

The nav to the side/layout is ok but the content changes layout abit to much for my liking. One font size on the homepage, another smaller on the inside pages and sometimes a different font on the...

Re: FN-FORUM General Question

date posted 13th July 2002 22:25

I think your client is easily pleased. Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "john anslow" [EMAIL REMOVED] To: [EMAIL REMOVED] Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 9:15 PM Subject: FN-FORUM General Questi...

RE: FN-FORUM General Question

date posted 13th July 2002 22:23

It's all about paying the bills mate. I've lost track of the number of sites I've produced which I think are total shite, but which the client loves. Sometimes you're given a free reign and you can fl...

Re: FN-FORUM discussion group

date posted 13th July 2002 22:23

Quoting [EMAIL REMOVED] [EMAIL REMOVED] > Dear forum, > Do any of you have any opinions on the following. > > Would this forum be better run as a discussion group with threads etc. > or do you pre...

RE: FN-FORUM sales people

date posted 13th July 2002 22:08

I agree. Do it yourself if at all possible. I forced myself to pickup the phone many years ago to get my business off the ground and found it wasn't quite as bad as I had expected. Many business peop...

Re: FN-FORUM General Question

date posted 13th July 2002 21:53

PANIC!!! There's a problem with http://www.autocarecroydon.com/bodyshop.htm The image on the right overlays the text beginning "Dav..." on 800x600 not maximized. (I never maximize my browser). It say...

Re: FN-FORUM discussion group

date posted 13th July 2002 21:47

er, no kilts here today! I'm in Gateshead. Yesterday I was in Bellshill, though. Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Maynes" [EMAIL REMOVED] To: [EMAIL REMOVED] Sent: Saturday, July 13,...

Latest Freelancers Game

date posted 13th July 2002 21:33

Hey guys have you tried the latest freelancers game? WHILE INTEREST >0 Add a free advertisement watch it get wiped off WEND I've been playing for 2 days now, it's great :-)) Johnny -- Fatfriar...

General Question

date posted 13th July 2002 21:17

Here's Johnny :-) what do people think is more important, you and your peers opinions of the work you do or the clients? I have now launched www.autocarecroydon.com, and thanks to everyone who pr...

RE: FN-FORUM BNI (again!)

date posted 13th July 2002 21:07

Hi Lindsey My advice is jump at the opportunity. We get thousands of pounds of business through the BNI, which makes the joining fee and weekly fee pale into insignificance. In regard to your conce...

Re: FN-FORUM website analysis..still urgent

date posted 13th July 2002 20:53

OK, I'll ask you what I wondered the first of many times you posted this. Why do you want everyone to leave their name and job title in your inbox? This is a public forum, surely if you want opinions...

Re: FN-FORUM discussion group

date posted 13th July 2002 20:31

Andy, do we all have to call you Sir now? With the mix of life's little teasers (what's your favourite cake?) and technical mindbenders (what is this beige box on my desk for?), FN Forum has a good f...

RE: FN-FORUM sales people

date posted 13th July 2002 20:18

On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, Tony Crockford wrote: > > Does anyone have any pointers/ideas about where to recruit IT > > competent > > sales people? [snip] > Tran yourself to sell and you'll be the best sa...

RE: FN-FORUM discussion group

date posted 13th July 2002 20:10

well I get 600! How come everyone's in front of the machine, it's saturday! I know machines dont 'really' know what day it is, but we do... dont we?!! How many times has someone started this thread...

Re: FN-FORUM discussion group

date posted 13th July 2002 19:59

I like it just the way it is. It's quite a quiet list really. I get around 500 per day from one of my other lists... Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL REMOVED] [EMAIL REMOVED] To: [EMAI...

Re: FN-FORUM discussion group

date posted 13th July 2002 19:54

> Dave Robinson wrote: > I`m new here, but like what I`ve seen so far. I quite like the mixture of > topics. > If it were a threaded message board I`d probably end up out of the loop > before long. So...

Re: FN-FORUM website analysis..still urgent

date posted 13th July 2002 17:59

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B0_01C22A97.20865CE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fight your own ba...

RE:OT FN-FORUM discussion group

date posted 13th July 2002 17:11

Changing the subject a little ..... I quite like Swish and have done some reasonable things with it, with little effort (or skill for that matter!!) I followed the thread on flashkit.com to the winne...

Re: FN-FORUM discussion group

date posted 13th July 2002 16:51

----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul J White" [EMAIL REMOVED] To: [EMAIL REMOVED] Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 4:22 PM Subject: Re: FN-FORUM discussion group > >Would this forum be better run a...

Re: FN-FORUM discussion group

date posted 13th July 2002 16:26

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D5_01C22A89.CD172F10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I like it as it i...

Re: FN-FORUM discussion group

date posted 13th July 2002 16:25

gotta admire the balls :-) [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > Dear forum, > Do any of you have any opinions on the following. > > > > Would this forum be better run as a discussion group with threads et...

Re: FN-FORUM discussion group

date posted 13th July 2002 16:22

>Would this forum be better run as a discussion group with threads etc. >or do you prefer it to be e-mail based as it is. This question arises every couple of Months - the usual answer is no. Through...

RE: FN-FORUM discussion group

date posted 13th July 2002 16:21

Like Andy said - it was tried, it failed. The list is imperfect, but it serves a dual purpose and that's the way most people like it - those that don't unsubscribe (or attempt to). I don't think a tra...

Re: FN-FORUM Translation of Web Pages

date posted 13th July 2002 16:08

Thanks, John - that's what I was trying. Works after a fashion, but needs more effort (when I find time) Cheers Terry...

Re: FN-FORUM Translation of Web Pages

date posted 13th July 2002 16:08

Thanks, Marion It's that cut 'n paste I'm trying to avoid. Making some progress..... Cheers Terry...

Re: FN-FORUM discussion group

date posted 13th July 2002 16:04

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C22A87.21AECA90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, I reckon htt...

Re: FN-FORUM website analysis..still urgent

date posted 13th July 2002 15:51

It's got to be a wind-up. He's gathering forum user details to use in an evil plan to do away with all other freelancers. I think the consensus was that the site was hard to read. How many ways does...

discussion group

date posted 13th July 2002 15:50

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C08480.A615C9E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear forum, Do...

Re: FN-FORUM BNI (again!)

date posted 13th July 2002 15:44

Lindey, when I went along they were a nice bunch of people and I wouldn't have minded joining but the £400 joining fee plus £25 a month put me off as I'm broke at the moment. John Lindsey Hill...

RE: FN-FORUM BNI (again!)

date posted 13th July 2002 15:30

From my fleeting experience (my local branch already had a web design company on board - piss poor one at that), it seems worthwhile. Awareness is all, and if local businesses know you're out there, a...

Re: FN-FORUM website analysis..still urgent

date posted 13th July 2002 15:27

No, it's not just you. I'm sick of this message! He calls himself a senior designer for f*&! sake. There are plenty of decent designers out there - if you want some advice (or design), pay for it li...

Re: FN-FORUM website analysis..still urgent

date posted 13th July 2002 15:24

Have to say that you're starting to sound like you've got a bit of a chip on your shoulder - the design of the site doesn't look bad at all to me - I certainly wouldn't be ashamed to have it in my por...

BNI (again!)

date posted 13th July 2002 15:20

Hi all I have had an invitation from a local BNI member to go to a meeting as they have a vacancy for a design firm. I remember a few discussions going round and someone said they did quite well fr...

RE: FN-FORUM website analysis..still urgent

date posted 13th July 2002 15:15

Dude. We got the message first time round. Do you think repeating yourself a hundred times will make people more likely to offer up the critisism you want, or piss them off? I'm in the latter camp, H...

RE: FN-FORUM website analysis..still urgent

date posted 13th July 2002 15:10

Is it only me or is this getting slightly annoying? Please stop pestering us. Fight your own battles! Thanks grumpy tony....

RE: FN-FORUM sales people

date posted 13th July 2002 15:08

> Does anyone have any pointers/ideas about where to recruit IT > competent > sales people? > > A couple of us programmers have got together to set up a company (so I > s'pose we're not technically fr...

Re: FN-FORUM OT - System Builders - Resources

date posted 13th July 2002 14:56

A couple of years ago I used to think there was a niche making video editing PCs, after all the bollocks I went through one sunny Saturday afternoon getting a Matrox RT2000 going for a friend on a PC...

website analysis..still urgent

date posted 13th July 2002 14:54

--part1_a4.28bf9557.2a618b44_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi fellow creative/new media/marketing/strategy industry types. I come to you (agai...

sales people

date posted 13th July 2002 14:45

Does anyone have any pointers/ideas about where to recruit IT competent sales people? A couple of us programmers have got together to set up a company (so I s'pose we're not technically freelancers a...

Re: FN-FORUM OT - System Builders - Resources

date posted 13th July 2002 14:10

> I agree in principal with Hutch re: niche markets, find yourself a good niche first - I don't reccomend Audio PCs unless you want to do the high-end (over £3000 per system with project studio c...

RE: FN-FORUM OT - System Builders - Resources

date posted 13th July 2002 12:38

if anyone needs some product reviews (no selling) just reviews for bilding audio pc's www.computeraudio.co.uk is a good place to start Andrew -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL REMOVED] [EMAIL...

RE: FN-FORUM OT - System Builders - Resources

date posted 13th July 2002 11:48

I can echo some of those comments as someone who's been reviewing PC systems for everything from PC Pro to The Times for a decade. Smaller outfits simply cannot compete with companies like Dell in ter...

Re: FN-FORUM OT - System Builders - Resources

date posted 13th July 2002 11:35

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0078_01C22A61.34BD7120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At last something...

Re: FN-FORUM OT - System Builders - Resources

date posted 13th July 2002 11:12

On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, Liam Martin wrote: > I am looking to (well, with my dad) setup a small company selling and > building Computer Systems. Can anybody recommend any resources for > system builders...

Re: FN-FORUM Text Family in