Freelancers Forum Messages on Sunday September 15th 2002
Re[2]: FN-FORUM Asking for email trouble
date posted 15th September 2002 23:58
well, you did ask for it, I just redirected my spam folder to your
email addresses, so whatever spam I get, you get automatically ;) I'll
turn it off tomorrow morning because I think that will be enou...
Re: Re[2]: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 23:45
I've got XP Pro on a PC I built a couple of years ago (AMD K6-2 500 with
256Mb RAM)- use it to play games and surf the net generally and found it to
be as stable as a horse's home and much quicker tha...
Re: FN-FORUM Require help in ASP 3.0...
date posted 15th September 2002 22:48
Danish,
Do you have FTP access to the server where the Excel file resides ?
Dennis
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RE: FN-FORUM Help required in Flash....
date posted 15th September 2002 22:38
Do a bytes loaded or create a new fla, and import in the swish FLA. It will
come in as single frames. You can use frame loaded in that case.
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RE: Re[2]: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 22:27
I've been using XP pro and found it incredibly slow and prone to crashes but
it was an HP with all their proprietary b*ll*cks on it. I've had every app
under the sun crash on that, even with 380mb RAM...
Re: FN-FORUM curl 302 follow
date posted 15th September 2002 22:25
Thanks Mark,
The page I was trying to follow was setting three different cookies in the
header and had the redirect as a relative link and I think that was messing
things up (I tried setting the CURL...
Re: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 22:00
> We did the printing for the Troops Out movement (among other things). A
> member of my staff was once arrested for the attempted robbery (with a
> pencil!) of Sunderland PO and was in remand in Durh...
Re: Re[6]: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 21:03
The Good Ole days :)
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Subject: Re: Re[6]: FN-FORUM Mac info request
> Netware...
Re: FN-FORUM Help required in Flash....
date posted 15th September 2002 21:02
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Re: FN-FORUM Asking for email trouble
date posted 15th September 2002 20:45
Thanks Neil that would be great, same applies if anyone else has any
stored spam. Zips would be fine.
Cheers
George
Neil Durant wrote:
> George, would sending you a zip file (or similar) of spam...
Re: FN-FORUM Require help in ASP 3.0...
date posted 15th September 2002 20:45
Thanks for your help Dennis but problem is that the excel file is on another
server & I wanna automatically donwload this excel file to my server then
convert it without open it to comma separated f...
FN-FORUM Require help in ASP 3.0...
date posted 15th September 2002 20:44
Thanks for your help Dennis but problem is that the excel file is on another
server & I wanna automatically donwload this excel file to my server then
convert it without open it to comma separated f...
Help required in Flash....
date posted 15th September 2002 20:42
Hi,
Problem is that I m lodaing a SWF file which is exported by SWISH in flash.
And want to put a loading sequence on that loading SWF movie in flash. I
know that "If frame loaded" function used to...
Re: Re[6]: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 20:24
I meant, I wasn't surprised it was sluggish (sulking). My servers don't have
to put up with that sort of thing. I even use remote control for admin!
(can't be bothered to dig out the keyboards and tur...
Re: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 20:21
No, a terrorist... ;-)
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Kathy
http://www.vendetta.co.uk
DNRC Minister for Useful but Irritating Information and Trivia
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Re: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 20:20
We did the printing for the Troops Out movement (among other things). A
member of my staff was once arrested for the attempted robbery (with a
pencil!) of Sunderland PO and was in remand in Durham nic...
Re: FN-FORUM Asking for email trouble
date posted 15th September 2002 20:19
George Hazlewood [EMAIL REMOVED] writes
>Hi guys and gals,
>
>I'm testing some allegedly good anti-spam software at the moment and I
>want to see how good it really is. Although I don't get much spa...
Re: Re[6]: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 20:17
Netware 286 took an entire working day to format a disk. This was in the
days when 20Mb (not gig) was a big disk.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Kathy
http://w...
Re: Re[2]: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 20:03
Another complaint about windows crashes certainly lies with the way that an
application that should be pure userspace can kill the whole system.
This isn't really something that should be expected fr...
Re: Re[6]: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 19:51
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Watt" [EMAIL REMOVED]
To: "Lists" [EMAIL REMOVED]
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 6:49 PM
Subject: Re[6]: FN-FORUM Mac info request
> Just sometimes, whe...
Re: Re[2]: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 19:47
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Subject: Re: Re[2]: FN-FORUM Mac info request
> XP Pro is just Win2k with a To...
Re: Re[2]: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 19:45
All hardware was allegedly windows compatible and I would expect Intel
Solaris to run on the same hardware as Win9x in the cases I had.
The point I was trying to make is that I had hardware (windows...
Re[2]: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 19:37
The only crashes I've had with PS have been due to dodgy filters or
twain drivers, without any 3rd party crap it's incredibly stable for me.
Acrobat is a bit flakier. Flash has crashed a few times, as...
Re: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 19:30
Lists wrote:
> No. My passport was removed by special branch in the 1970s and I haven't had
> one since. I'm sure I could get one now, but I've never got round to it.
you weren't a tea-leaf were you?...
Re: RE:was FN-FORUM Mac info request (now general slag off Bill G posts)
date posted 15th September 2002 19:20
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> Ahem... "That said, they did once make a reasonable OS (DOS :)"
>
> Sorry, old Bill G bought a reasonable OS from a small s...
Re: FN-FORUM plumbers' wages (slight return) OT
date posted 15th September 2002 19:11
Acknowledged and appreciated,
Shaf
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Re: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 18:55
> No. My passport was removed by special branch in the 1970s and I haven't
had
> one since. I'm sure I could get one now, but I've never got round to it.
>
Come on Kathy 'bag on head' Evans, you can't...
Re[6]: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 18:52
Just sometimes, when it's the nearest machine. It doesn't matter one
way or the other as it's a development server, and not used by the
public.
As for that version of netware, thankfully no, a touch...
Re: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 18:40
No. My passport was removed by special branch in the 1970s and I haven't had
one since. I'm sure I could get one now, but I've never got round to it.
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Re: Re: Re[2]: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 18:37
Bag over me head.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Kathy
http://www.vendetta.co.uk
DNRC Minister for Useful but Irritating Information and Trivia
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Re: Re[2]: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 18:36
XP Pro is just Win2k with a Toys R Us interface. Turn that off, go back to
regular NTFS security and it's good.
No idea about the home version. Wouldn't touch it.
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Re: Re[4]: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 18:34
You browse from a server????!!! A server isn't made to be used for
foreground tasks. I'm not surprised it sulks!
These particular servers weren't installed until just before Sp3 came out. I
can't rem...
Re: Re[2]: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 18:28
Weird! But maybe not. Being able to run one OS doesn't mean the hardware is
suitable for running another. I certainly wouldn't expect Solaris to run on
the same hardware as Win9x! I remember FreeBSD h...
Re: Re: Re[2]: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 18:18
> And will people stop acting like teachers, this is a relaxed forum. Why do
people have to make personal digs over silly things like a slip of the
keyboard? Next we will have to post passport photos...
Re: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 18:07
Lists wrote:
> Could be hard. I haven't got a passport.
never go abroad then?
well, i suppose those who go abroad obviously think this country isn't
good enough for them, so we shouldn't allow them...
Re: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 18:04
Paul J White wrote:
>>Backing up what Kathy has said... I can't honestly think of the last time
>
> any office apps crashed. But I can remember when the weaver of dreams did. I
> don't hear anyone bl...
Re: Re[2]: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 18:01
> I've not used Opera since V4 and keep meaning to rectify that oversight as
> although strange compared to 'normal' browsers, I did like the way it
worked
> and think it could be worth handing money...
Re: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 18:01
Tam wrote:
>>Aww poor frontpage, I can't stand DW floaty boxes everywhere and I can
>>never find anything. I probably shouldn't say so here, but, I LIKE
>>FrontPage!
Not in the new MX version - you c...
RE:was FN-FORUM Mac info request (now general slag off Bill G posts)
date posted 15th September 2002 17:59
Ahem... "That said, they did once make a reasonable OS (DOS :)"
Sorry, old Bill G bought a reasonable OS from a small start-up company and after a bit of tinkering licensed it to IBM
Microsoft woul...
Re: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 17:54
agree completely. the CBI took the same approach to "warchalking". blame
the person who points out the security loopholes rather than the people
who made the product that has the loophole...
Mark...
Re: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 17:52
> Aww poor frontpage, I can't stand DW floaty boxes everywhere and I can
> never find anything. I probably shouldn't say so here, but, I LIKE
> FrontPage!
>
You say what you like, Tamsin - I haven't s...
Re: Re: Re[2]: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 17:51
> >Next we will have to post passport photos and get to complain at our
> people's facial >features ;-P
>
> Could be hard. I haven't got a passport.
>
How did you get across to Newcastle last week t...
Re: Re: Re[2]: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 17:44
Ah yes, the joys of Adobe! I've had some interesting arguments with Acrobat
5. Basically the upgrade on win9x with Office 97 does not work because their
installer is broken. Took me about a month to g...
Re: Re: Re[2]: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 17:42
> Backing up what Kathy has said... I can't honestly think of the last time
any office apps crashed. But I can remember when the weaver of dreams did. I
don't hear anyone blasting Macromedia or Adobe...
Re: Re[2]: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 17:39
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From: "Paul J White" [EMAIL REMOVED]
> > That said, they did once make a reasonable OS (DOS :) ) and IE is one of
> the
> > best browsers around
> >
> Hmm, I think it is...
Asking for email trouble
date posted 15th September 2002 17:37
Hi guys and gals,
I'm testing some allegedly good anti-spam software at the moment and I
want to see how good it really is. Although I don't get much spam in
general (which has always surprised me...
Re: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 17:35
[EMAIL REMOVED] wrote:
>
>Oh.. I wasn't at all refering to Frontpage, I was referig to the core office apps.. i.e word and excel (the useful ones). I agree.. frontpage is evil.
>
Aww poor frontpage,...
Re[4]: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 17:32
Well, I didnt say that my NT machine crashed, just that it behaved
oddly (strange pauses and periods with 100% CPU usage when browsing
for instance) however, as it's a server that doesn't matter too m...
Re: Re[2]: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 17:24
Well, I'd have to be very unlucky indeed if every machine I had run windows
on had bad hardware, especially since this same hardware runs Linux or
Solaris flawlessly :)
Illogical though it sounds, I...
RE: Re: Re[2]: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 17:12
Ooops!
Think I've just taken the bait and caused another freelancers riot :)
Backing up what Kathy has said... I can't honestly think of the last time any office apps crashed. But I can remember whe...
RE: FN-FORUM Safe2Surf site check please
date posted 15th September 2002 17:12
> Good luck with the campaign, anyway. My daughter is safely
> surfing the cartoon network site, nothing more vicious and
> nasty than Tom & Jerry over there ;-)
Lol! Those mousetraps can be prett...
Re: FN-FORUM curl 302 follow
date posted 15th September 2002 17:06
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aral Balkan" [EMAIL REMOVED]
> Does anyone know off the top of their heads how to make curl follow a 302
> redirect? I'm using libcurl in PHP.
If I remember corr...
Re: Re[2]: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 17:01
> That said, they did once make a reasonable OS (DOS :) ) and IE is one of
the
> best browsers around
>
Hmm, I think it is well behind Moz and the imminent v7 of Opera will mean IE
is one of the worst...
Re: FN-FORUM Mac info request - MSOFFICE
date posted 15th September 2002 16:54
WordPerfect had the best DOS wp, but their Windows versions sucked big time.
I evaluated wp for a large local authority and was a staunch WP51-er. But
Word 2 was masses better than WP for Windows, the...
RE: Re[2]: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 16:49
I agree, if you bought a car or any other product with simialr defects you'd
take it straight back to the shop and demand a refund, yet with software we
all accept it!
Madness!
Mike
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Re: Re[2]: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 16:46
Perhaps your hardware is faulty. Seriously! I have several machines running
Office and I haven't had a crash for several years. My NT servers have never
crashed since being installed in er, well, befo...
Re: Re[2]: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 16:43
I agree. After using M$ products for more than 20 years I feel quite
qualified to state that they are, generally, far from being good products.
That fact, combined with M$'s agressive squashing of com...
Re: FN-FORUM Safe2Surf site check please
date posted 15th September 2002 16:40
Keith Budden wrote:
> Hi guys
>
> We have just started a major project in conjunction with Noel Edmonds
> and the NSPCC.
>
> Please can you check out the website at www.safe2surf.org.uk and let me...
Re: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 16:35
Apart from the fact that they broke the numbering in 97 and made it worse in
2000 and then broke styles in XP. Ah well! Frame is overkill for most WP
things and not having really easy macros sucks. So...
Re: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 16:30
Try sending your CV in anything other than Word format and see whether you
get the job though ..
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Re: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 16:30
Try sending your CV in anything other than Word format and see whether you
get the job though ..
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Re: FN-FORUM Mac info request - MSOFFICE
date posted 15th September 2002 16:28
[EMAIL REMOVED] wrote:
>
> Err... I'm really confused why people have such a problem with microsoft products. Microsoft is successful becuase they've made some dam good products... end.
>
> Use Offi...
curl 302 follow
date posted 15th September 2002 16:27
Does anyone know off the top of their heads how to make curl follow a 302
redirect? I'm using libcurl in PHP.
Thanks,
Aral :)
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24 Claremont Heights,...
Re: FN-FORUM Safe2Surf site check please
date posted 15th September 2002 16:20
Thanks Matt
There's always one which slips through ;-)
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Re: FN-FORUM Safe2Surf site check please
date posted 15th September 2002 16:16
Hi Paul
Thanks for your comments - you're quite right about the frames / go4dinner
etc.
I'm working on optimising the images to get the main page smaller but due to
the need to publicise the campaig...
Re: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 16:07
You seem very happy with Microsoft products already, but increase your
enjoyment and ROI by seeking out 'Spelling and Grammar' (F7 I think)
Andy
>
> Err... I'm really confused why people have such a...
RE: FN-FORUM Safe2Surf site check please
date posted 15th September 2002 16:01
Hi,
There's a typo on the benefits page:
"pages are processed by our server beford delivery"
M.
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Re: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 16:01
I think it's healthy for the economy and for future innovation if people
support some smaller / hungrier companies, rather than just the biggest /
obvious ones.
> Err... I'm really confused why peopl...
RE: FN-FORUM Safe2Surf site check please
date posted 15th September 2002 16:01
Hi,
There's a type in the benefits page:
"pages are processed by our server beford delivery"
M.
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Re[2]: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 15:53
Well, most versions of the MS Office products have crashed my machines
at least once a week, can be incredibly slow even on a machine with
512mb memory and a Ghz processor. From a website design point...
Re: FN-FORUM Safe2Surf site check please
date posted 15th September 2002 15:50
Please can you check out the website at www.safe2surf.org.uk and let me have
your comments. I know the picture on the homepage is a bit low res but I'm
waiting for them to provide me with a higher res...
Re: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 15:23
> What do most people use for word processing and spreadsheets on a Mac?
> My daughter's just got a G4 and I know zip about Macs.
>
> I'm loathe to get MS Office for Macs unless absolutely necessary...
Re: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 15:18
Err... I'm really confused why people have such a problem with microsoft products. Microsoft is successful becuase they've made some dam good products... end.
Use Office... it works, it's fast (easil...
Safe2Surf site check please
date posted 15th September 2002 15:17
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Re: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 15:02
Most people use Office unfortunately - try looking on www.download.com for
alternatives.
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Re: FN-FORUM Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 14:52
On 9/15/02 2:22 PM, "Martin Akehurst" [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote:
> What do most people use for word processing and spreadsheets on a Mac?
> My daughter's just got a G4 and I know zip about Macs.
>
> I'm...
Mac info request
date posted 15th September 2002 14:26
What do most people use for word processing and spreadsheets on a Mac?
My daughter's just got a G4 and I know zip about Macs.
I'm loathe to get MS Office for Macs unless absolutely necessary (Bill
Ga...
Re[2]: FN-FORUM OT UT2003 demo released
date posted 15th September 2002 14:22
Saturday, September 14, 2002, 9:47:38 PM, you wrote:
Af> does "Elite" still exist?
Yup.
Download this BBC Micro emulator:
http://www.rickynet.net/beebem
You'll also need the Acorn ROMs:
http://www....
RE: FN-FORUM OT UT2003 demo released
date posted 15th September 2002 13:44
Yeah and when Braben heard talk of Elite 4 being 'Mostly Harmless'....
he said 'So long and thanks for all the fish"
... here's hoping its better than the travesty of Elite 3,
the only game that h...
Re: FN-FORUM WebSite Check
date posted 15th September 2002 12:26
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Hutchinson" [EMAIL REMOVED]
> I seriously doubt you'll ever supply a name because the
> designer-on-the-grassy-knoll doesn't exist - it was an excuse you came...
Re: FN-FORUM OT UT2003 demo released
date posted 15th September 2002 11:50
Yeah but it's Mostly Harmless
John
Norman Beresford wrote:
>There's talk of Elite 4
>
>
>============================================================
>= Advanced web hosting solutions from Saffas....
RE: FN-FORUM OT UT2003 demo released
date posted 15th September 2002 11:39
Battlefield 1942 is my current online drug of choice.
And of course CS
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RE: FN-FORUM OT UT2003 demo released
date posted 15th September 2002 11:39
There's talk of Elite 4...
Re[2]: FN-FORUM WebSite Check
date posted 15th September 2002 10:59
Also, 'Web Technologys' on the web tech page, MySql is better put as
MySQL, PhP is better as PHP, random capitilisation of various words
such as 'Based' 'Databases' and 'Specialise', the sentence 'pro...
RE: FN-FORUM WebSite Check
date posted 15th September 2002 09:06
lol
There are several major problems here. Firstly, Dean, you don't come
across as a 'new web designer', you come across as a bad-tempered 14
year old - your inability to spell the word 'offend' (amo...
RE: FN-FORUM plumbers' wages (slight return) OT
date posted 15th September 2002 06:14
*hand up*
That would be me. I do admit to a lapse in communication and hopefully made
amends by mailing Shaf offlist.
regards
Raj
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> [EMAIL REMO...
FN-FORUM How much does it cost to make a computer game
date posted 15th September 2002 05:23
I've had an idea for a computer game, which I think is really good, and is
certainly original.
I think it'd be best served as a 1st person perspective RPG - so similar
graphics do doom/quake.
Supposin...
Re: FN-FORUM WebSite Check
date posted 15th September 2002 05:01
That's hardly a fair comparison. He's not designing your website - he's
designing his own. You are more than welcome to take the cover off
_your_own_ PC and have a good poke around - but leave Mark'...
RE: FN-FORUM WebSite Check
date posted 15th September 2002 01:42
I did not say anything about anyone being perfect ......... I simply
found it really offensive that you were so baltently rude to someone....
I personally feel that this whole forum is about sharing...
Re: FN-FORUM OT UT2003 demo released
date posted 15th September 2002 00:45
Darren Spink wrote:
> Elite still does exist...but if you can remember it your too old to play
> it...;-)
oh bugger... time to sand down the bunions...
--
"Nudity bounces between the sublime and t...
RE: FN-FORUM OT UT2003 demo released
date posted 15th September 2002 00:08
Elite still does exist...but if you can remember it your too old to play
it...;-)
Regards
Darren Spink
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