Re: FN-FORUM: Fw: one for the developers to chew over :-)

date posted 27th June 2003 08:02

Guy,

You're a lucky fellow.

Most places I've worked in the business drives the whole thing, with final
say as to what goes on to live servers being done by deployment teams.

What tends to happen is that the developers 'in the middle' just get
squashed. The fact that one of the fellows I currently work with refers to
himself as an 'Extreme Code Monkey' is probably indicative of what most
developers feel.

I have offered opinions, advice and suggestions but am usually told 'We have
it in hand - go away and develop stuff'. We do deliver good systems, but I
and most of the other experienced developers who've worked on my current
project are VERY aware of the fact that deep in the system are some nasty
little intermittent bugs that will almost certainly never be fixed due to
time constraints.

Joe


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Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 8:02 AM
Subject: RE: FN-FORUM: Fw: one for the developers to chew over :-)


> My current day job (20 hours a week for the Financial Services Authority)
is
> with their service delivery team. We have final say on what is allowed
onto
> a production box be it an existing system or new system. We are involved
in
> all stages of a project from initial ideas meeting through user
> specification to initial design and always impose a through testing
regime.
> We do not have the time to support a rogue product on top of our day to
day
> fettling/tuning/fixing etc. If a system has not been properly tested we do
> not accept it as simple as that. We are obviously luck in that we have an
IT
> director who has managed many projects in the past and realises the
> importance of testing and is willing to fight the rest of the FSA board on
> the subject - but it does mean we have stable systems - little egg on face
> for the FSA as a whole and generally speaking we, as the service delivery
> unit, are able to throw the shite at someone else's fan when a project is
> late.
>
> Yes I agree it is all about education, but then I consider that to be part
> of any service I supply.
>



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