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Freelancers Forum Messages on Wednesday December 17th 2003

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 23:55

In most cases there's no competition anyway, tables or no tables. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ali Turner" [EMAIL REMOVED] To: [EMAIL REMOVED] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:49 PM Subje...

RE: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 23:17

Totally agree, please everyone stick to tables - it reduces the competition. All the best Ian Turner -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL REMOVED] [EMAIL REMOVED] On Behalf Of Tony Crockford Sen...

FN-FORUM: forget search engines if you want to find something

date posted 17th December 2003 22:48

Intrigued?? http://www.fortune.com/fortune/fastforward/0,15704,563090,00.html and http://www.groxis.com Looks v. interesting. regards, Darren Yates [EMAIL REMOVED] http://dittodesign.co.uk www...

Re: FN-FORUM: New site check please

date posted 17th December 2003 21:00

Thanks a bunch. I had no idea that the background colour would be different if I didn't set it. Damn, that means I have about 20 websites to sort out. Just done the www.bladder--infection.com. I'm g...

RE: FN-FORUM: New site check please

date posted 17th December 2003 20:29

You should check for entries in name address etc before allowing link to payment. ---- Philip Painter, VIAS -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL REMOVED] [EMAIL REMOVED] On Behalf Of Lists Sen...

RE: FN-FORUM: Tax changes spell end of IR35?

date posted 17th December 2003 20:18

Check this out too: http://www.ir591.org.uk/ Regards Lindsay -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL REMOVED] [EMAIL REMOVED] On Behalf Of David Nye Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 5:39 PM To:...

Re: FN-FORUM: XHTML

date posted 17th December 2003 20:17

On 17 Dec 2003 20:35:37 -0000, Lists [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > > You can't open an asp doc without a web server. That's normal. If you run > IIS/Apache/whatever locally, it'll work, but not if you ope...

Re: FN-FORUM: XHTML

date posted 17th December 2003 20:03

You can't open an asp doc without a web server. That's normal. If you run IIS/Apache/whatever locally, it'll work, but not if you open it as a file (rather than using http://) +++++++++++++++++++++++...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 20:01

On 17 Dec 2003 18:52:39 -0000, Dan Cook [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > > Just because you say it in pidgeon italian, it isn't going to get more > people on your side. Hehe, sorry. Is that what you think I...

Re: FN-FORUM: New site check please

date posted 17th December 2003 19:56

The body background colour is not set. Don't assume that it will be white, it depends on the browser and the user's preferences. The links are almost invisible on my grey background. There's are mis...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 18:56

hahaha...... well, that tells us I guess :-D On 17 Dec 2003, at 19:21, Sacha wrote: > Non capisco bene tutto ci=F2 che dite, chiss=E0 forse perch=E9 non ha=20= > senso... Io > comunque sono pi=F...

RE: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 18:48

=20 > hahaha - =E8 quello ;-) >> Ma alcuni dicono che le tabelle regolano e come per scorificare fuori = >> dei professionisti di CSS. il babelfish =E8 il mio amico. Non capisco bene tutto ci=F2 c...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 18:31

Yeah. He just needs a black suit and a violin case and nobody would dare argue! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luke Perman" [EMAIL REMOVED] To: [EMAIL REMOVED] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 18:26

yeah, but it sounds damn cool..... (for some reason!) On 17 Dec 2003, at 18:52, Dan Cook wrote: > Just because you say it in pidgeon italian, it isn't going to get more > people on your side. Hehe...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 18:20

hahaha - =E8 quello ;-) On 17 Dec 2003, at 18:33, Tony Crockford wrote: > Ma alcuni dicono che le tabelle regolano e come per scorificare fuori=20= > dei professionisti di CSS. il babelfish =E8 il...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 18:19

Just because you say it in pidgeon italian, it isn't going to get more people on your side. Hehe, sorry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Crockford" [EMAIL REMOVED] To: [EMAIL REMOVED] Sent:...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 18:00

On 17 Dec 2003 18:22:37 -0000, Luke Perman [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > > Le Tabelle succhiano e tutta sa che il futuro del Internet è XHTML e CSS. Ma alcuni dicono che le tabelle regolano e come per...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 18:00

hahaha... yea, any excuse not to work :-) On 17 Dec 2003, at 18:27, Dan Cook wrote: > So that's what you've been up to for the last 6 hours ;-)...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 17:54

So that's what you've been up to for the last 6 hours ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luke Perman" [EMAIL REMOVED] To: [EMAIL REMOVED] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 6:22 PM Subject: Re:...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 17:50

Le Tabelle succhiano e tutta sa che il futuro del Internet =E8 XHTML e=20= CSS. ;-) On 17 Dec 2003, at 17:09, Dom wrote: > Yeah, but could you have put it better in Italian?=...

RE: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 17:40

> "Give that back" > "Take your hands off my wife" > and > "Police!" Bella bella ;>...

Re: FN-FORUM: XHTML

date posted 17th December 2003 17:37

Hi Kathy .asp and IE6 SP1 Best Regards D Thomas http://www.thomas-design.co.uk [EMAIL REMOVED] t - 0870 162 0723 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lists" [EMAIL REMOVED] To: [EMAIL REMOVED] Sen...

FN-FORUM: Selling software

date posted 17th December 2003 17:22

Has anyone sold software online? I've been working on a set of perl scripts for log analysis which I was going to release as open source but if there's a chance of making some dosh that would suit m...

Re: FN-FORUM: New site check please

date posted 17th December 2003 17:08

hi john, i wasn't knocking it!! i just couldn't see what wasn't working for you... it all seems to be in order to me... cheers. luke On 17 Dec 2003, at 17:18, John Bremner wrote: > Kathy, > >...

FN-FORUM: Tax changes spell end of IR35?

date posted 17th December 2003 17:06

Small company tax changes spell end of IR35 & s660A --------------------------------------------------- Tax experts say the Chancellor's planned changes in the taxation of small companies are likel...

FN-FORUM: Font Activation in OSX - ATTN: Dave Edwards

date posted 17th December 2003 17:06

hi dave, did this via the forum as others may benefit from the information... remember i was saying about font management being a nightmare in Panther? just read this snip on the Insider Software...

Re: FN-FORUM: New site check please

date posted 17th December 2003 16:46

Kathy, What do you mean 'background colour' ? The cells at the top have a background colour the same as the table border. Others. Yes, it's just an html table and lots of text. But it will get a ve...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 16:41

>> "If you don't and you're proud of your "no tables" layout then either >> you're just trying to impress your readers." >Yeah, but could you have put it better in Italian? Good lord no, all I can s...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 16:37

On Wednesday 17 Dec 2003 11:16 am, Dan Norcott wrote: > >> Ha! Saw this article on CSS and for some reason it reminded me of th= is > >> forum http://www.cristianvidmar.com/2003/10/06.html#a137 > > >...

Re: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 16:36

On Wednesday 17 Dec 2003 12:54 pm, Jonathan Chong wrote: > Arsenal is registered as a UK reademark and as a community trademark, > but not as an international trademark. The domain owner is based in >...

Re: FN-FORUM: New site check please

date posted 17th December 2003 16:09

what's there to check?? it's just a plain old table with a load of text......! yeah, there's a space at the bottom of the page, but it looks fine to me... that's in IE and Safari on Mac..............

Re: FN-FORUM: New site check please

date posted 17th December 2003 16:07

Background colour! I don't see why space at the bottom is a problem. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Kathy http://www.vendetta.co.uk +44(0)7005 982 261 DNR...

RE: FN-FORUM: Google filtering "commercial" keywords

date posted 17th December 2003 16:07

> hmmn, the link to http://www.google-watch.org/broken.html off > that page is fascinating... Indeed it is :>...

Re: FN-FORUM: Win 2003 Server & XP Clients

date posted 17th December 2003 16:02

Add the domain users group to (local) administrators group (in computer management on XP PC) or be very daring and add INTERACTIVE to administrators group. Shouldn't need to do this though, (power use...

Re: FN-FORUM: Remember yesterday or so...

date posted 17th December 2003 15:44

>Ah, but does he mean his dad, or his...? Now that REALLY would be a site to behold!...

RE: FN-FORUM: Win 2003 Server & XP Clients

date posted 17th December 2003 15:43

Local Admin thing worked - thanks again Kathy. Ant. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL REMOVED] [EMAIL REMOVED] On Behalf Of Anthony Johnston Sent: 17 December 2003 15:57 To: FN-FORUM / [EMAIL...

RE: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 15:41

> Yup the e-mail was sent using the Contact Form on the website. My bet is on this being a wind-up then! David Nye http://dnye.co.uk Business Systems, Database & Internet Applications Design & Devel...

Re: FN-FORUM: New site check please

date posted 17th December 2003 15:41

Oops sorry it's www.bladder--infection.com, not the plural infections. Cheers. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Brunsdon" [EMAIL REMOVED] To: [EMAIL REMOVED] Sent: Wednesday, December...

Re: FN-FORUM: Remember yesterday or so...

date posted 17th December 2003 15:38

Dan Cook wrote: >>I want to go push my old man through the spout of a boiling kettle > > That that would be something to behold! Ah, but does he mean his dad, or his...? Matt...

Re: FN-FORUM: New site check please

date posted 17th December 2003 15:32

The domain either doesn't exist (--) or has no A records (-), just MX and NS. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Kathy http://www.vendetta.co.uk +44(0)7005 982 2...

Re: FN-FORUM: Remember yesterday or so...

date posted 17th December 2003 15:32

>I want to go push my old man through the spout of a boiling kettle That that would be something to behold! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Norcott" [EMAIL REMOVED] To: [EMAIL REMOVED] Sent:...

Re: FN-FORUM: Remember yesterday or so...

date posted 17th December 2003 15:31

That is an inspiring picture of a web designer there though.. You can see him thinking of really good site layouts to jot down. Genius. On 17/12/03 3:29 pm, "Dan Norcott" [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > >...

RE: FN-FORUM: Win 2003 Server & XP Clients

date posted 17th December 2003 15:24

> Is it a domain Yes > is it XP Pro Yes > roving clients application? Clients have roving profiles (should have said user) Application is any app such as Outlook > Do you have your own DNS running...

RE: FN-FORUM: New site check please

date posted 17th December 2003 15:21

Same here > Tried it, but the system tells me that the page cannot be displayed. > > John > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Bremner" [EMAIL REMOVED] > To: [EMAIL REMOVED] > Sent: Wed...

Re: FN-FORUM: New site check please

date posted 17th December 2003 15:16

Tried it, but the system tells me that the page cannot be displayed. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Bremner" [EMAIL REMOVED] To: [EMAIL REMOVED] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 3:...

FN-FORUM: New site check please

date posted 17th December 2003 15:11

We just put up our new website www.bladder--infections.com, and would be grateful for a check over by people. One problem I have is that there is space at the bottom of the page on the browser, but n...

Re: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 15:10

Luke Perman wrote: > > i can't see how they would have a problem with a fan site - but it is > natural that they would want to maintain some control of their branding > and image, as that is big b...

RE: FN-FORUM: Table flow in MS Publisher

date posted 17th December 2003 15:07

Yeah, I'm doing it with text already but I've a table (basically a calendar) and when I insert new rows it eventually gets too big for the page and I'd like it to flow to the next. As it is I have to...

FN-FORUM: USA---Help!?

date posted 17th December 2003 15:07

any USA folk out there to help with MAC Quark project? URGENT!! hence need to ship out to the states... and discuss future projects and collaborations! please!! [EMAIL REMOVED]...

Re: FN-FORUM: XHTML

date posted 17th December 2003 15:06

What's the extension? What browser? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Kathy http://www.vendetta.co.uk +44(0)7005 982 261 DNRC Minister for Useful but Irrita...

Re: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 14:58

if you read back over my post about them naturally wanting you protect their brand, you can understand why... On 17 Dec 2003, at 15:22, Jonathan Chong wrote: > I was expecting this really. Arsenal...

Re: FN-FORUM: Table flow in MS Publisher

date posted 17th December 2003 14:57

Oh, it's jug! I thought it was a bucket. Not that it makes much difference. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Kathy http://www.vendetta.co.uk +44(0)7005 982 2...

Re: FN-FORUM: Remember yesterday or so...

date posted 17th December 2003 14:56

> Change your background colour to something darkish (I used orange) and watch > the page load. > > http://www.webdesigninggroup.com/ And is it just me, or is "web designing group" a bit of a crap na...

Re: FN-FORUM: Table flow in MS Publisher

date posted 17th December 2003 14:55

Yes. It's in the help file. You basically click the bucket and pour the text into the next frame. Not sure about in table rows, though. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++...

Re: FN-FORUM: Remember yesterday or so...

date posted 17th December 2003 14:51

Change your background colour to something darkish (I used orange) and watch the page load. http://www.webdesigninggroup.com/ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ka...

Re: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 14:49

Lists wrote: > Well they have, see http://www.patent.gov.uk/tm/dbase/index.htm and search > for it. You can also check what classes they have registered it in (pretty > much everything by the look of...

Re: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 14:46

It's an EU-registered trademark as well. Why not try to come to some sort of agreement - promote their official site as well or something? Explain that it's a pro the club, not anti etc. ++++++++++++...

Re: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 14:43

Well they have, see http://www.patent.gov.uk/tm/dbase/index.htm and search for it. You can also check what classes they have registered it in (pretty much everything by the look of it) and look up the...

RE: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 14:26

In this instance is an event not in the public domain ? I can't see how on earth they could winge about it. =20 Andy IWD2 LLP [EMAIL REMOVED] =20 -----Original Message----- From: JohnW [EMAIL REMOVE...

Re: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 14:21

----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jonathan Chong" [EMAIL REMOVED] > > I'll draft up a letter to contact the club and ask them "WTF?" but in a > more subtle way. > I had a similar (football club...

RE: FN-FORUM: Google filtering "commercial" keywords

date posted 17th December 2003 14:19

hmmn, the link to http://www.google-watch.org/broken.html off that page is fascinating... -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL REMOVED] [EMAIL REMOVED] Behalf Of James Sent: 17 December 2003 14:0...

Re: FN-FORUM: Google filtering "commercial" keywords

date posted 17th December 2003 14:14

I reckon it will be the first nail in their coffin if they are not careful. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James" [EMAIL REMOVED] To: [EMAIL REMOVED] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 2:08 PM...

Re: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 14:13

i think the lesson here is simply that Arsenal should have been informed and asked before the site went live... i can't see how they would have a problem with a fan site - but it is natural that th...

Re: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 14:06

Jonathan Chong wrote: > Hello everyone > > I run and develop a website called Arsenal-Mania.com, which is a fan > website dedicated to Arsenal Football Club PLC. Get it in writing, in the mean time p...

FN-FORUM: Google filtering "commercial" keywords

date posted 17th December 2003 13:35

http://www.scroogle.org/fiasco.html So you need to buy Adwords, how nice :) -- James...

Re: FN-FORUM: woooo scary!!! [OT]

date posted 17th December 2003 13:28

I like that but I had to kind of spoil it by taking a screenshot of the cards first. I'm a bugger for that kind of thing. Les ;-) on 17/12/03 1:44 PM, [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: >I can't believe I...

Re: FN-FORUM: woooo scary!!! [OT]

date posted 17th December 2003 13:27

hahaha... can't get anything by you lot ;-) On 17 Dec 2003, at 13:50, Neelesh Sonawane wrote: > Old trick.. None of the cards in the first lineup are in the second so > it > looks like he took t...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 13:26

omg what are you guys banging on about... talk about nit picking! personally, i don't care how people want to code their sites - but i would never go back to using tables now that i've got a hang o...

FN-FORUM: LAN-DESK

date posted 17th December 2003 13:25

Has anyone out there got any experience with LANDESK ????? =20 Let me know off list ASAP. [EMAIL REMOVED] Thanks guys...

Re: FN-FORUM: woooo scary!!! [OT]

date posted 17th December 2003 13:18

Old trick.. None of the cards in the first lineup are in the second so it looks like he took the card you chose. On 17/12/03 1:27 pm, "Luke Perman" [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > > http://www.zorstec.net...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 13:14

We'll be waiting tableboy... =) On 17/12/03 1:23 pm, "Dan Cook" [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > Maybe I'll save that one for a rainy day -- Neelesh Sonawane Graphic Designer M: 07949 034 391 www.sonawan...

RE: FN-FORUM: woooo scary!!! [OT]

date posted 17th December 2003 13:12

I can't believe I had to look at that three times to work it out! Very nice. Ron -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL REMOVED] [EMAIL REMOVED] Behalf Of Luke Perman Sent: 17 December 2003 13:27...

RE: FN-FORUM: woooo scary!!! [OT]

date posted 17th December 2003 13:11

They just took all the cards away and replaced them with different ones. Many thanks, J Sutton -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL REMOVED] [EMAIL REMOVED] On Behalf Of Luke Perman Sent: 17 Dec...

Re: FN-FORUM: Table flow in MS Publisher

date posted 17th December 2003 13:10

On 17 Dec 2003 13:08:00 -0000, Andy Macnaughton-Jones [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > > Hi, > Anybody know it it's possible to have a table flow in MS publisher 2002 > ? > > By this I mean you can have 2...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 13:07

On 17 Dec 2003 12:53:47 -0000, Oktal [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > >> but he has since switched to CSS. http://www.wpdfd.com/ > > LOL! With fixed widths for everything!! So, got any further reasons to...

RE: FN-FORUM: Freedom2Surf

date posted 17th December 2003 13:06

Here's what it says: ----------------- Recommended By A Friend? If you were recommended to freedom2surf by a friend please enter their account name here: This will provide your friend with a ten po...

RE: FN-FORUM: Wedding photos ?

date posted 17th December 2003 13:05

Ten or twenty per person would be fantastic. Best is if it's not just the wedding but some reception stuff or other snaps. General family kind of photo's that were around the theme of a wedding da...

Re: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 13:04

Bob Gentle wrote: > It's possible that the solicitor has a guy working on arsenal full time. He > may have standing orders to proceed against any infringement as they are > discovered, without refer...

Re: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 12:58

Matt Burns wrote: > Another thing to consider is posting about it on the site itself. The > visitors are obviously going to be Arsenal fans, and probably won't > appreciate the heavy-handed tactic...

FN-FORUM: woooo scary!!! [OT]

date posted 17th December 2003 12:55

http://www.zorstec.net/copperfield.htm :-/...

RE: FN-FORUM: Out of the box

date posted 17th December 2003 12:53

www.snippetmaster.com / you need the pro version. =A325 or so. Cheers, Bob.=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL REMOVED] [EMAIL REMOVED] On=20 > Behalf Of John Murphy > Sent: 17 December...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 12:51

> Well why did you bring the subject up. > Go fiddle with your tables. > =) I reckon the debate has already been had (many a time!). Although strangely enough, I don't think I've had my tuppence wort...

Re: FN-FORUM: Freedom2Surf

date posted 17th December 2003 12:48

Leon Chevalier wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm just signing up for ADSL with freedom2surf. If I give the name of a > friend who recommended me then that friend gets a £10 credit on their > account. So, an...

RE: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 12:47

change the site to leeds-mania.com that way in about 6 weeks there will be no plc to sue you. i think the idea to enter into correspondence with arsenal sounds like a good idea though, asking them wh...

RE: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 12:47

It's possible that the solicitor has a guy working on arsenal full time. He may have standing orders to proceed against any infringement as they are discovered, without reference to the club pr peopl...

Re: FN-FORUM: Remember yesterday or so...

date posted 17th December 2003 12:46

Lists wrote: > I just got an offer to improve my website (yes, it could do with it). > > I sent this reply: > > Your own site uses search engine spamming techniques (white text), has no > DTD and t...

Re: FN-FORUM: Wedding photos ?

date posted 17th December 2003 12:45

How many do you want? On 17/12/03 11:27 am, "Bob Gentle" [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > > Morning, > > Any of the married sort feel like "lending" their scanned wedding photos to > a good cause. I'm do...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 12:43

Tony Crockford wrote: > > On 17 Dec 2003 11:59:30 -0000, James [EMAIL REMOVED] > wrote: > >> Let's have a heated debate! :-) > > Why? Clearly not a Mrs Merton fan then (or would that qualify as "ch...

Re: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 12:41

Had a lot of this trouble when I was working with Car Importers (a low point of my life). Seems the solicitors can be very heavy handed without the client actually knowing about it & not actually wan...

Re: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 12:40

Jonathan Chong wrote: > The server is based in the US, and the owner of the domain is based in > Switzerland. Is the site exempt from UK law? Another thing to consider is posting about it on the sit...

Re: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 12:39

Rus Foster wrote: > E-Mail is not an acceptable form of notification of copyright infringment. > You should ask for them to send you an official letter and then check with > the Law Society they are a...

RE: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 12:37

I say remove everything they want and then name 'n shame 'em. Put up the email and a little editorial explaining what's going on and get all the fans pissed off at them being uber-crappy to their fanb...

FN-FORUM: Table flow in MS Publisher

date posted 17th December 2003 12:35

Hi, Anybody know it it's possible to have a table flow in MS publisher 2002 ? By this I mean you can have 2 text boxes joined that will flow the content from one to the next if it's straight text. I...

Re: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 12:34

carla boulton wrote: > Did the mail come from a solicitor? I find it strange that they dash off an > e-mail rather than an official letter which would usually be sent > registered > Carla Yup the...

FN-FORUM: Out of the box

date posted 17th December 2003 12:34

This may seem like a stupid question but can I get a Out of Box CMS system to work around my design it's both tables and CSS. It's similar to the design layout as www.scarlets.co.uk Any ideas suggest...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 12:33

Well why did you bring the subject up. Go fiddle with your tables. =) On 17/12/03 12:12 pm, "Dan Cook" [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > >> Let's have a heated debate! :-) > > Please! No!!! > -- Neelesh...

Re: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 12:32

Jonathan Chong wrote: > What the fuck? Ooops, looks like you've been nabbed by the litigation department of the Thought Police. The best option open just now (rather than just shutting up shop) is...

Re: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 12:29

carla boulton wrote: > Have you replied and asked them if they would allow you to continue with the > site if you have a disclaimer on it saying it's not run by them and if you > remove the logos? Wh...

FN-FORUM: Freedom2Surf

date posted 17th December 2003 12:27

Hi all, I'm just signing up for ADSL with freedom2surf. If I give the name of a friend who recommended me then that friend gets a £10 credit on their account. So, anyone want to be my friend? First...

FN-FORUM: Remember yesterday or so...

date posted 17th December 2003 12:24

I just got an offer to improve my website (yes, it could do with it). I sent this reply: Your own site uses search engine spamming techniques (white text), has no DTD and the code doesn't validate....

Re: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 12:23

On Wednesday, Dec 17, 2003, at 12:31 Europe/London, Jonathan Chong wrote: > > Arsenal has registered as trade marks the word 'Arsenal'; the word > 'Gunners'; the Club Crest; the Club Cannon in a num...

Re: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 12:23

Bob Gentle wrote: > What the fuck - indeed. > > Legaly they are right. The "I act on behalf" and not "I'm blah from" looks > dubiouse. Might be a grumpy designer. I'd ask for it in writing on a > l...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 12:21

> but he has since switched to CSS. http://www.wpdfd.com/ LOL! With fixed widths for everything!! So, got any further reasons to keep with tables? Damon : Base-8...

RE: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 12:20

but he has since switched to CSS. http://www.wpdfd.com/ He certainly has on the home page, but delve one click in to the editorial page and there's definitely a table there... I think this whole...

Re: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 12:20

> Apparently, they have. > > I don't have a problem removing the logos from the images on the site, > it'll only take a couple of hours. My concern is the actual URL of the site. > > The server is bas...

RE: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 12:20

That's a bit harsh considering you're a fan actively promoting support for the club. I'd mail back asking for express permission on that basis. Although I guess this is typical of a club like Arsen...

Re: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 12:18

I don't think they can stop you using the domain name but their logos etc they can, photos of the players should be fine with permission off whoever took the photos so really apart from trademark logo...

Re: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 12:16

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Chong" [EMAIL REMOVED] To: [EMAIL REMOVED] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:30 PM Subject: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright > > Hello e...

RE: FN-FORUM: Urgent File Conversion Help Needed!

date posted 17th December 2003 12:16

I forgot the link for streamline http://www.adobe.co.uk/products/streamline/main.html but I have a copy here if anyone wants a lend! John -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL REMOVED] [EMAIL REMO...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 12:16

Tony Crockford wrote: > > On 17 Dec 2003 12:26:07 -0000, Dan Norcott [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > >>> Irony detector not switched on today? >> >> It's fully functional - perhaps your transmitter is fau...

RE: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 12:15

>The server is based in the US, and the owner of the domain is based in Switzerland. Is the site exempt from UK law? Sounds like it could be / probably is. Depends on how they did the copyright. Th...

Re: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 12:14

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Chong" [EMAIL REMOVED] To: [EMAIL REMOVED] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:39 PM Subject: Re: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright > > And...

RE: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 12:14

Dunno - but I'd have thought so. They may have registered the trademakrs around the world though=20 Andy IWD2 LLP [EMAIL REMOVED] =20 -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Chong [EMAIL REMOVED]...

Re: FN-FORUM: XHTML

date posted 17th December 2003 12:12

Strange, that was the default address stuck in by dw, anyways changed that over and when i try opening it locally (and connected online) the page opens up and shows the source code instead of the desi...

Re: FN-FORUM: Win 2003 Server & XP Clients

date posted 17th December 2003 12:11

Is it a domain, is it XP Pro? It no worky with XP Home. What is a "roving clients application"? Do you have your own DNS running correctly with your ISP's servers set as forwarders? Did the PCs join t...

Re: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 12:10

Jonathan Chong wrote: > > Arsenal also owns the copyright to the club crest and cannon device and > the Arsenal logo. > > It is illegal to use any of these trade marks without a licence or > expr...

RE: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 12:10

What the fuck - indeed. Legaly they are right. The "I act on behalf" and not "I'm blah from" looks dubiouse. Might be a grumpy designer. I'd ask for it in writing on a letterhead. Moraly they are w...

Re: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 12:08

Andy Macnaughton-Jones wrote: > Can they really trademark the name Arsenal ? Other stuff - yes I'd > reckon they have a case without permission. Apparently, they have. I don't have a problem removi...

Re: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 12:07

On 17 Dec 2003 12:31:23 -0000, Jonathan Chong [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > If I do not receive a response from you within 7 days I have > instructions to issue court proceedings without further notific...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 12:03

On 17 Dec 2003 12:26:07 -0000, Dan Norcott [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > >> Irony detector not switched on today? > > It's fully functional - perhaps your transmitter is faulty. I guess you're right. I'...

RE: FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 12:02

Can they really trademark the name Arsenal ? Other stuff - yes I'd reckon they have a case without permission. Andy IWD2 LLP [EMAIL REMOVED] =20 -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Chong [EMAI...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 12:01

On 17 Dec 2003 12:26:23 -0000, Oktal [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > >> http://www.wpdfd.com/editorial/wpd0701.htm#comment > > Ironic that this better looking page is done using tables for layout and > css...

Re: FN-FORUM: XHTML

date posted 17th December 2003 11:59

On 17 Dec 2003 11:05:42 -0000, Thomas Design [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > > Simple question I'm sure, why is it, when you open an xhtml page locally > you > get the below error message > > The system c...

FN-FORUM: Registered Trademarks and Copyright

date posted 17th December 2003 11:58

Hello everyone I run and develop a website called Arsenal-Mania.com, which is a fan website dedicated to Arsenal Football Club PLC. I just received this e-mail: I act on behalf of Arsenal Footbal...

Re: FN-FORUM: XHTML

date posted 17th December 2003 11:55

Ta muchly, still can't open the page locally so bit weird..IE6 WinXP too Best Regards D Thomas http://www.thomas-design.co.uk [EMAIL REMOVED] t - 0870 162 0723 ----- Original Message ----- From: "T...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 11:53

> http://www.wpdfd.com/editorial/wpd0701.htm#comment Ironic that this better looking page is done using tables for layout and css for element styling. Damon : Base-8...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 11:53

> Irony detector not switched on today? It's fully functional - perhaps your transmitter is faulty....

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 11:49

On 17 Dec 2003 12:17:30 -0000, Dan Norcott [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > Not that I really give a Yule Log either way, but presenting a mail like > this as a "come on let's not argue" affair is a little c...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 11:49

> can't leave that hanging there ;o) > > http://davespicks.com/essays/notables.html Ahhh....another day, another CSS evangelist displaying why it might be better to stick to tables if your clients ha...

Re: FN-FORUM: XHTML

date posted 17th December 2003 11:47

On 17 Dec 2003 12:14:47 -0000, Thomas Design [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > > I've tried a google to no avail, where can I find a list of all the file > name extensions for xhtml? just use .htm or .html...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 11:45

> there are designers that have embraced the seperation of content and > presentation afforded by CSS and those that believe that using tables for > layout is a bad idea. > > And there are those that...

Re: FN-FORUM: XHTML

date posted 17th December 2003 11:42

I've tried a google to no avail, where can I find a list of all the file name extensions for xhtml? Best Regards D Thomas http://www.thomas-design.co.uk [EMAIL REMOVED] t - 0870 162 0723 ----- Orig...

Re: FN-FORUM: Urgent File Conversion Help Needed!

date posted 17th December 2003 11:42

Another way to do it would be to use Flash's Trace Bitmap feature and then export that as an illustrator file (or copy & paste into illustrator) You have quite good control over quality vs file size t...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 11:40

> Let's have a heated debate! :-) Please! No!!!...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 11:38

On 17 Dec 2003 11:59:30 -0000, James [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > > Let's have a heated debate! :-) Why? there are designers that have embraced the seperation of content and presentation afforded by...

RE: FN-FORUM: Urgent File Conversion Help Needed!

date posted 17th December 2003 11:34

Hi Guys Wow! Quick response, thanks to everyone and the offers of help. Luckily we have just found another printer who can cope with Photoshop files so we'll probably use him, apparently the Export...

Re: FN-FORUM: Wanted Poster Font

date posted 17th December 2003 11:32

Rus Foster wrote: > Hi, > Does anyone have a font suitable for a wanted poster? > I have 'Wanted poster caps' if you'd like it - Marlboro and Aaron heavy look pretty good too. Give me a shout off l...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 11:27

Let's have a heated debate! :-) Tony Crockford wrote: > > http://davespicks.com/essays/notables.html > Seems to translate as: "I can't be bothered to overcome a number of very trivial problems with...

RE: FN-FORUM: Urgent File Conversion Help Needed!

date posted 17th December 2003 11:24

Adobe Streamline nuff said that will do it for you can trace the psd file and have the output for illustrator or eps. If you want mail the logo over and ill do it for you John [EMAIL REMOVED] -----...

FN-FORUM: Wanted Poster Font

date posted 17th December 2003 11:20

Hi, Does anyone have a font suitable for a wanted poster? Rgds Rus -- w: http://www.jvps.com | Virtual Dedicated Servers from $15/mo e: [EMAIL REMOVED] | Donations made to Debian, FreeBSD...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 11:15

On 17 Dec 2003 11:31:04 -0000, Dan Cook [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > >> can't leave that hanging there ;o) >> >> http://davespicks.com/essays/notables.html > > Don't even need to read that - the awful de...

RE: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 11:14

Anal :o()...

FN-FORUM: AOL and

date posted 17th December 2003 11:12

Have a client that for some reason cannot see this button using AOL, any ideas why this would not be visable? I have even turned off the style sheet, then they get a small square with nothing written...

Re: FN-FORUM: XHTML

date posted 17th December 2003 11:07

On 17 Dec 2003 11:05:42 -0000, Thomas Design [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > > Simple question I'm sure, why is it, when you open an xhtml page locally > you > get the below error message > > The system c...

Re: FN-FORUM: XHTML

date posted 17th December 2003 11:06

I'm using and I don't get that message on NT4 or Win2k using IE6 or Firebird Do you have a live Internet connection? If not, t...

RE: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 11:02

There is plenty to disagree with there though. He goes on about the page degrading on a narrower screen. Try narrowing your window on his 'perfect' site and you lose all the navigation to the bottom...

Re: FN-FORUM: Urgent File Conversion Help Needed!

date posted 17th December 2003 11:01

Hi Andy, At 11:08 am +0000 17/12/03, Andy Stowell wrote: >Hi Guys > >Dan and I were wondering whether anyone knows of a way to convert an Adobe >PSD file to an Adobe Illustrator file. We have a logo...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 11:00

> I think I could have put this bit a little better: > > "If you don't and you're proud of your "no tables" layout then either you're > just trying to impress your readers." The next bit's written i...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 10:58

> can't leave that hanging there ;o) > > http://davespicks.com/essays/notables.html Don't even need to read that - the awful design of the site itself speaks volumes....

FN-FORUM: Wedding photos ?

date posted 17th December 2003 10:55

Morning, Any of the married sort feel like "lending" their scanned wedding photos to a good cause. I'm doing a demo site and need dummy content. All very tasteful - I promise. This would really hel...

Re: FN-FORUM: Urgent File Conversion Help Needed!

date posted 17th December 2003 10:54

Can you not get hold of the original eps file for the logo? If it's a simple b&w logo - e.g not too many curves and gradients, you could try using the trace tool (Freehand's is quite good) and touchin...

Re: FN-FORUM: Urgent File Conversion Help Needed!

date posted 17th December 2003 10:53

On Wednesday, Dec 17, 2003, at 11:09 Europe/London, Andy Stowell wrote: > > Hi Guys > > Dan and I were wondering whether anyone knows of a way to convert an > Adobe > PSD file to an Adobe Illustrato...

RE: FN-FORUM: Urgent File Conversion Help Needed!

date posted 17th December 2003 10:51

If it's been done in Photoshop the chances are that it's mostly bitmap, I'd suggest doing a high quality vector trace of the photoshop file or a high quality jpeg version in corel or freehand then op...

Re: FN-FORUM: XHTML

date posted 17th December 2003 10:48

are you connected to the web when view the file locally? if not - then that's your problem - the resource is at the url listed, not on your local machine. (I thought most browsers revert to their i...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 10:44

>> Ha! Saw this article on CSS and for some reason it reminded me of this >> forum http://www.cristianvidmar.com/2003/10/06.html#a137 > Couldn't have put it better myself ;-) I think I could have pu...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 10:41

On 17 Dec 2003 10:58:50 -0000, Dan Cook [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > > Ha! Saw this article on CSS and for some reason it reminded me of this > forum > http://www.cristianvidmar.com/2003/10/06.html#a137...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 10:37

LOL, it's pretty spot on that ;c) Best Regards D Thomas http://www.thomas-design.co.uk [EMAIL REMOVED] t - 0870 162 0723 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Cook" [EMAIL REMOVED] To: [EMAIL REM...

FN-FORUM: Urgent File Conversion Help Needed!

date posted 17th December 2003 10:36

Hi Guys Dan and I were wondering whether anyone knows of a way to convert an Adobe PSD file to an Adobe Illustrator file. We have a logo which needs to be printed onto some T-shirts and the printer...

FN-FORUM: XHTML

date posted 17th December 2003 10:33

Simple question I'm sure, why is it, when you open an xhtml page locally you get the below error message The system cannot locate the resource specified. Error processing resource 'http://www.w3.org/...

RE: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 10:31

Couldn't have put it better myself ;-) Ha! Saw this article on CSS and for some reason it reminded me of this forum http://www.cristianvidmar.com/2003/10/06.html#a137 :-P...

FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables!

date posted 17th December 2003 10:26

Ha! Saw this article on CSS and for some reason it reminded me of this forum http://www.cristianvidmar.com/2003/10/06.html#a137 :-P...

Re: FN-FORUM: Your site is awful!!

date posted 17th December 2003 09:58

You can only spam Ltd companies and you can't send them to an individually named person either - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip Painter" [EMAIL REMOVED] To: [EMAIL REMOVED] Sent: Tue...

FN-FORUM: Win 2003 Server & XP Clients

date posted 17th December 2003 09:12

Hi, Just setup my home network with the above, having trouble with roving clients applications not being able to change or add to the registry. ie, Outlook won't run, and changes made to desktop...

Re: FN-FORUM: Meeting in Manchester?

date posted 17th December 2003 00:28

ok, fair enough. Lashing it down in April rings a bell somewhere??? :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Eckersall" [EMAIL REMOVED] To: [EMAIL REMOVED] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:2...

Re: FN-FORUM: trendy bar websites

date posted 17th December 2003 00:06

on 16/12/03 3:31 pm, Deborah Causton at [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > > Throwing a 'trendy' bar website together, just looking for inspiration. > Anybody know any good bar websites? > > http://www.esca...



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