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Freelancers Forum Messages on Friday December 19th 2003

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 23:41

It's ok(ish), so I guess I'm kind of troll(ish) ;-) I agree with his philosophy though. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Crockford" [EMAIL REMOVED] To: [EMAIL REMOVED] Sent: Friday, Dece...

Re: FN-FORUM: going blind staring at a javascript function - can anyone help me out?

date posted 19th December 2003 23:09

Kevan Froud wrote: > Try if (isset == "extra") { > > I do that all the time. That's what BASIC does to someone... :-) Matt...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 23:01

Update to the list of accessible sites that look good (IMHO) appropriately open at the part about design: http://www.themaninblue.com/design/philosophy/ if you think that site looks crap you're a t...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 22:36

The Habitat site is dreadful, slow, text too small for over 40s like me (who probably are in their target market), difficult to work out what's where - it killed IE completely. I'm with Tony, I think...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 22:21

On 19 Dec 2003 21:18:02 -0000, Dan Cook [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > Ha! I honestly don't mean to be personal but your site hardly fills me > with > confidence in what you are saying : www.boldfish.co.u...

Re: FN-FORUM: PDF's and Databases (GRC)

date posted 19th December 2003 20:58

Have you been here http://www.planetpdf.com/mainpage.asp?WebPageID=338 and looked at all the resources they mention? Some might help. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++...

Re: FN-FORUM: OpenOffice

date posted 19th December 2003 20:54

Sounds interesting. What's the macro language like? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Kathy http://www.vendetta.co.uk +44(0)7005 982 261 DNRC Minister for U...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 20:44

Sorry, I meant subjective. You simply cannot discount a site such as habitat. It's beautifully executed, as are the other two. Working for companies such as Nike is as big as it gets in this game. Mon...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 20:33

Tony Crockford wrote: > >> www.habitat.net > > nothing there that requires the design to be exclusively in Flash, to be > accessible would require a complete redesign. They really should know >...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 20:12

On 19 Dec 2003 20:18:39 -0000, Dan Cook [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > >> you show me a really good slick looking site and I'll tell you how it >> could be made accessible, otherwise we're into a slanging...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 19:50

Looking at the quickstart guide, it looks like my Auntie actually wrote it! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neelesh Sonawane" [EMAIL REMOVED] To: [EMAIL REMOVED] Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 7...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 19:45

>you show me a really good slick looking site and I'll tell you how it >could be made accessible, otherwise we're into a slanging match over what >is a "really good, slick looking site" www.habitat.n...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 19:32

On 19 Dec 2003 19:43:10 -0000, Neelesh Sonawane [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > > Yeah but that is just the quick start guide. In the detailed white paper > it > does say: > > "Sites must be accessible by...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 19:15

On 19 Dec 2003 17:00:13 -0000, Oktal [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > >> Please share those statistics then. > > Oh come on - you don't really think that there are more people in the > world > that are blin...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 19:09

Yeah but that is just the quick start guide. In the detailed white paper it does say: "Sites must be accessible by Dan Cook's Auntie's 3 legged, one eyed cat to be fully DDA compliant." On 19/12/03...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 18:43

On 19 Dec 2003 16:38:51 -0000, Dan Cook [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > > Before saying this, I want to reiterate that I am by no means against > accessibility. What I am against is a law created by people...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WAR

date posted 19th December 2003 17:37

Luke Perman wrote: > i actually think it's an interesting debate... > > you've got to hear all the points of view on topics like this, as long > as it doesn't degenerate into too much of a slag match....

RE: FN-FORUM: going blind staring at a javascript function - can anyone help me out?

date posted 19th December 2003 17:15

>> JS refers to it as 'className'. cheers Nick, very much appreciated, and it's gonna keep my code nice 'n clean too (& validated) - now I think I might call it night and find the pub :D cheers Chris...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 17:03

Dan Cook wrote: >>School has just broken up > > > Tell me about it....my missus is a teacher, so I have her to deal with today > too *head in hands sobbing* > I think all Molly's teachers have gon...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 16:59

> > School has just broken up > > Tell me about it....my missus is a teacher, so I have her to deal with today > too *head in hands sobbing* LOL!! Sounds tough mate. Damon : Base-8...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 16:54

> School has just broken up Tell me about it....my missus is a teacher, so I have her to deal with today too *head in hands sobbing*...

RE: FN-FORUM: going blind staring at a javascript function - can anyone help me out?

date posted 19th December 2003 16:48

Chris Batchelor: > The problem was that for some > god-known reason it didn't like parsing the class attribute (go figure?!) JS refers to it as 'className'. Try: ------------------------8...

RE: FN-FORUM: going blind staring at a javascript function - can anyone help me out?

date posted 19th December 2003 16:38

thanks kevan, unfortunately that didn't work however you did get me thinking and I finally managed to figure it out. The problem was that for some god-known reason it didn't like parsing the class att...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 16:32

>Nice use of tables. lol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oktal" [EMAIL REMOVED] To: [EMAIL REMOVED] Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 5:03 PM Subject: Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 16:32

Tony Crockford wrote: > > Ah, well apparently I don't live in the real world.... > > I blame my generation for being too soft on their kids. > School has just broken up and I'm trying to work with...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 16:30

> What about > http://www.angliarailways.co.uk Nice site. Nice use of tables. Good accessibility. Damon : Base-8...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 16:26

> Please share those statistics then. Oh come on - you don't really think that there are more people in the world that are blind than can't read?! You are on crack. Furthermore, consider the number...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 16:20

> And Tony, you can't make arguments without backing them up. I'd really like > to see an example of a really good, slick looking site with great > accesibility............. What about http://www.ang...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 16:15

It's easier to just trim their feet with a fine edge chainsaw with a bit of band aid ;c) Thats why there's so many puddles around these days, we got yeti's walking around the place, LOL Best Regards...

RE: FN-FORUM: Allegedly an actual registration letter sent by an unhappy employee [OT]

date posted 19th December 2003 16:14

>Thats been around a good while, actually I think it passed through the forum >a while back, genius though ;c) >Best Regards >D Thomas Just got that from a friend in South Africa - it's obviously b...

RE: FN-FORUM: going blind staring at a javascript function - can anyone help me out?

date posted 19th December 2003 16:13

> Chris Batchelor wrote: > if (isset = "extra") { Try if (isset == "extra") { I do that all the time. HTH Kevan...

Re: FN-FORUM: Allegedly an actual registration letter sent by an unhappy employee [OT]

date posted 19th December 2003 16:10

That told him! ;-P ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Ann Thomson" [EMAIL REMOVED] To: [EMAIL REMOVED] Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 4:33 PM Subject: FN-FORUM: Allegedly an actual registrati...

Re: FN-FORUM: Allegedly an actual registration letter sent by an unhappy employee [OT]

date posted 19th December 2003 16:09

Thats been around a good while, actually I think it passed through the forum a while back, genius though ;c) Best Regards D Thomas http://www.thomas-design.co.uk [EMAIL REMOVED] t - 0870 162 0723...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 16:05

Before saying this, I want to reiterate that I am by no means against accessibility. What I am against is a law created by people who are not up to speed on the current state of the web and it's techn...

FN-FORUM: Allegedly an actual registration letter sent by an unhappy employee [OT]

date posted 19th December 2003 16:00

> > Mr Shroeder, > > > > As an employee of an institution of higher education, I have a few very > > basic expectations. Chief among these is that my direct superiors have an > > intellect that ranges...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 15:58

Yeah, I thought that was pretty out of order...unless you're sharing this pool of big time rich-as-fuck-low-requirement clients with us. Damon : Base-8 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luke Perma...

RE: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WAR

date posted 19th December 2003 15:45

I agree. Mostly it's been not too flammy. Sometimes these things just need a step back or two, and someone to summerise things. I guess you could say that if you can improve accesability without ad...

RE: FN-FORUM: Small Claims

date posted 19th December 2003 15:41

If your willing to pay slightly more I can provide you with the details of a company that has done sterling work for me recovering outstanding fees. They are a Credit Control Specialists. They have th...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 15:40

On 19 Dec 2003 15:59:04 -0000, Pete Croft [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > > Tony Crockford wrote: > >> I'm beginning to think that we're no longer a caring society. > > Only beginning? Hell, I'll have so...

Re: FN-FORUM: OpenOffice

date posted 19th December 2003 15:38

On 19 Dec 2003 15:40:50 -0000, [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > So yes id say get into it. its certainly better than Word for day to day > operation and its got none of those annoying paperclips > > > Nik B...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 15:38

> I'm beginning to think that we're no longer a caring society. LOL!!! You are detached from reality. > it won't be the government that's after you, but as clients become more > aware (and they wi...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 15:37

On 19 Dec 2003 15:57:43 -0000, Oktal [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > > The arguement from accessibilty is just silly. There are statistically > many > more illiterate people in the world than blind ones -...

FN-FORUM: going blind staring at a javascript function - can anyone help me out?

date posted 19th December 2003 15:26

Hi people, I was wondering if any javascript gurus amongst you could tell me what I'm overlooking in this bit of code, I've spent ages on it this 'arvo and can't for the life of me figure out why it's...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 15:25

Tony Crockford wrote: > I'm beginning to think that we're no longer a caring society. Only beginning? Hell, I'll have some of what you've been taking for the last 20-odd years (if not longer!)....

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 15:24

The arguement from accessibilty is just silly. There are statistically many more illiterate people in the world than blind ones - I notice all you accessibility heads don't provide pictorial represen...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WAR

date posted 19th December 2003 15:17

i actually think it's an interesting debate... you've got to hear all the points of view on topics like this, as long as it doesn't degenerate into too much of a slag match...! On 19 Dec 2003, at...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 15:15

that is probably the singularly most unfair thing i've ever read on this forum, sorry. On 19 Dec 2003, at 15:30, [EMAIL REMOVED] [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > Then stop farting around with small time...

Re: FN-FORUM: Small Claims

date posted 19th December 2003 15:12

Ouch.. Yeah good luck. On 19/12/03 14:31, "Lindsay Baugh" [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > > < I'm doing it right now.> > > Good luck to you both, Deborah and Kathy. I left it too late with a (fellow > fr...

RE: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WAR

date posted 19th December 2003 15:09

I don't want to add anything to the flame wars (If it were a web forum I guess we wouldn't have to see them) Thought it was quite apt that in my narrowed subject field I just see this conversation en...

Re: FN-FORUM: OpenOffice

date posted 19th December 2003 15:07

Weve (3aIT Limited ) have been using Open Office for over 2 years now. From its early incarnations to the modern distribution its a very functional product. We have enabled many of our clients to make...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 15:04

>Then stop farting around with small time always-skint moon-on-a-stick >asshole clients. Most of my work is spent on longer term projects for larger companies (some very large). Whilst they ultimatel...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 15:03

On 19 Dec 2003 14:43:00 -0000, Oktal [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > >> http://diveintoaccessibility.org > > You'd have to be fucking blind to want to view this site. It's things > like > this that put pe...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 15:03

On 19 Dec 2003 15:15:59 -0000, Dan Cook [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > >> with respect that is crap. It's like saying unless the client pays you >> to >> make it search engine friendly then you won't. > >...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 14:57

Dan Cook wrote: > I don't think my small startup will be > that impressed when I tell them their 4 page site will cost > thousands. Then stop farting around with small time always-skint moon-on-a-sti...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 14:54

Luke Perman wrote: > i consider it to be our job to put in an option on any proposal or > brief £xxxx to make site accessible, and explain to the client the > reasons why... > > and then it is their...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 14:53

> TV caters for almost everybody all the time, almost all programs have the > option of subtitles. I disagree. Shows such as wwtba millionairre for example, play deep thumping music almost continual...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 14:45

Dan Cook wrote: >> The way you've put it would mean that all television would be in high >> contrast black and white and carry subtitles or signing *all the >> time* > > That's exactly the opposite of...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 14:43

>i consider it to be our job to put in an option on any proposal or >brief £xxxx to make site accessible, and explain to the client the >reasons why.. and then it is their responsibility... exactly...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 14:42

>with respect that is crap. It's like saying unless the client pays you to >make it search engine friendly then you won't. Crap? Thanks. You have a lot to learn. I explain to my clients what SEO is b...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 14:32

i consider it to be our job to put in an option on any proposal or=20 brief =A3xxxx to make site accessible, and explain to the client the=20 reasons why... and then it is their responsibility... O...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 14:26

On 19 Dec 2003 14:41:47 -0000, Dan Cook [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > >> The way you've put it would mean that all television would be in high >> contrast black and white and carry subtitles or signing *a...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 14:09

> http://diveintoaccessibility.org You'd have to be fucking blind to want to view this site. It's things like this that put people off the subject entirely. Arguments from the point of disability d...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 14:08

>The way you've put it would mean that all television would be in high >contrast black and white and carry subtitles or signing *all the time* That's exactly the opposite of what I'm saying. TV gener...

RE: FN-FORUM: Small Claims

date posted 19th December 2003 13:58

< I'm doing it right now.> Good luck to you both, Deborah and Kathy. I left it too late with a (fellow freelancer) client, and his company has gone into liquidation, owing us for two print jobs for w...

Re: FN-FORUM: OpenOffice

date posted 19th December 2003 13:41

Tony Crockford wrote: > Anyone on here using it seriously? Maybe not as seriously as I expect you mean ;) but I am using it day-to-day as a direct replacement for Word and Excel. I'm not doing an...

RE: FN-FORUM: Small Claims

date posted 19th December 2003 13:28

I've done 2 or 3 County Cou...

Re: FN-FORUM: New site check please

date posted 19th December 2003 13:25

Kathy, Thanks for all the advice on this. Is that the background sorted? The other sites share stylesheets with these... www.pain-when-urinating.com www.bladder--infection.com Cheers. John Bremne...

Re: FN-FORUM: Small Claims

date posted 19th December 2003 13:16

I'm doing it right now. Look up your local court service office and phone them (most are open 10-4 weekdays - you can drop as well), they are very helpful. You can print form N1 (ni_eng.pdf) from the...

Re: FN-FORUM: PDF's and Databases (GRC)

date posted 19th December 2003 13:12

Gavin Cotton wrote: > Hi guys, > > Need a little advice. > > I want to take a multiple page form, pass the results to a PDF file > which automatically gets emailed to two people (the person who fil...

RE: FN-FORUM: PDF's and Databases (GRC)

date posted 19th December 2003 13:08

As I said, I've downloaded the FDF toolkit from Adobe, and I've tried = running the examples but it just aint happening lol -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL REMOVED] [EMAIL REMOVED] On Behalf...

Re: FN-FORUM: PDF's and Databases (GRC)

date posted 19th December 2003 13:08

The problem with FDF might be that the user can download it and change it... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Kathy http://www.vendetta.co.uk +44(0)7005 982 2...

Re: FN-FORUM: PDF's and Databases (GRC)

date posted 19th December 2003 13:06

Yes, FDF is the basic PDF form - just a text file with field info to populate the PDF form. eg: (might come out a bit oddly) %FDF-1.2 %âãÏÓ 1 0 obj...

FN-FORUM: OpenOffice

date posted 19th December 2003 13:03

Anyone on here using it seriously? I'm thinking of implementing it in live SOHO networked environment - thoughts? I found three more things I like about it today: * you can connect to MySQL databa...

RE: FN-FORUM: Small Claims

date posted 19th December 2003 13:01

Has anybody been through the process? I've decided it's my only option left for my most trying EX-client. I've sent him several invoices, and have sent him final notificaion and my plans to proceed wi...

FN-FORUM: Car Images

date posted 19th December 2003 12:49

Hi, Anybody know of a source for car images (all manufacturers / models). Don't mind if it costs as we'll pass this onto the client. They must be good quality web images - the examples we had from JA...

RE: FN-FORUM: PDF's and Databases (GRC)

date posted 19th December 2003 12:48

I know what you are saying but the things is the values that are entered on the html/asp form need to be included in a pdf file which is emailed to my admin team and the customer, the cusomter has to...

Re: FN-FORUM: PDF's and Databases (GRC)

date posted 19th December 2003 12:45

At 12:32 19/12/03, Gavin Cotton wrote: >I want to take a multiple page form, pass the results to a PDF file >which automatically gets emailed to two people (the person who filed the >form and my email...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 12:42

Tony Crockford wrote: > I forgot: > http://www.sitepoint.com/print/1214 > goes someway to dispute this. Also have a look at http://people.uleth.ca/~kim.siever/showcase/ Ok, so my site is listed, but...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 12:31

On 19 Dec 2003 12:42:49 -0000, Dan Cook [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > > I'd just like to say that accessiblity for all is a nice liberal view of > things but it will make the web somewhat sterile. I forg...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 12:29

On 19 Dec 2003 12:42:49 -0000, Dan Cook [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > > I'd just like to say that accessiblity for all is a nice liberal view of > things but it will make the web somewhat sterile. You don...

RE: FN-FORUM: PDF's and Databases (GRC)

date posted 19th December 2003 12:22

The PDF has to be generated from a template and include the data from = the form. It's the passing of the information to the pdf to generate it = that I need to get sussed out. I've just got some info...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 12:22

On 19 Dec 2003, at 12:42, Dan Cook wrote: > I'd just like to say that accessiblity for all is a nice liberal view > of > things but it will make the web somewhat sterile. It doesn't have to - there...

Re: FN-FORUM: PDF's and Databases (GRC)

date posted 19th December 2003 12:18

Why not pass the results to a script that emails the PDF? Then it'd work just like a contact form with an attachment. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Kathy htt...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 12:09

I'd just like to say that accessiblity for all is a nice liberal view of things but it will make the web somewhat sterile. You don't want to go into a trendy clothes shop that only sells 'one size fit...

FN-FORUM: PDF's and Databases (GRC)

date posted 19th December 2003 11:59

Hi guys, Need a little advice. I want to take a multiple page form, pass the results to a PDF file which automatically gets emailed to two people (the person who filed the form and my email address)...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 11:55

Paul Cooper wrote: > Notice the 'etc' ... I was giving an example. I've seen loads of CSS > tutorials and CCS sites from people here that don't bother with very > basic accessobility, like using a...

Re: FN-FORUM: Password Protection

date posted 19th December 2003 11:54

[EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > OR, could you put the > conf.inc.php file outside the root as with the .htaccess thing? Yes, ideally. You can also configure Apache to tell (most) process to FRO if they t...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 11:38

Rick wrote: > > I do > > however always endeavour to make my sites accessible by bothering > > with alt tags etc. >alt attributes alone don't make for an accessible site. In fact, if you >have >to m...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 11:36

hey tony i was thinking just that same thing last night - and all such battles generally end up with name calling. i guess the thing to learn here is people have their own opinions, and a choice to...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 11:34

Oktal wrote: > > I don't know whether to believe them or not, but I just tried ESPN in 4.7 > and got this : "You must be using a standards-compliant web browser. Your > current browser is: Netscap...

Re: FN-FORUM: Password Protection

date posted 19th December 2003 11:12

[EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > Further to this, I was looking at some PHP file manager scripts, and some > had login pages - you set the user and pass in the conf.inc.php or whatever, > and then the index....

Re: FN-FORUM: DVD Project

date posted 19th December 2003 11:10

Does anyone know if these are Mac compatible? on 18/12/03 3:29 pm, KKC DZ at [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: >=20 > You can get DVD-RWs from http://www.aria.co.uk from about =A363 upwards >=20 > -----Origina...

Re: FN-FORUM: Password Protection

date posted 19th December 2003 11:02

On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > I've been learning some new stuff just for fun - I was reading about > .htaccess and it said the password file should be placed OUTSIDE the root > directo...

FN-FORUM: Password Protection

date posted 19th December 2003 10:59

Hi all, I've been learning some new stuff just for fun - I was reading about .htaccess and it said the password file should be placed OUTSIDE the root directory of the server - this way it CANNOT be...

Re: FN-FORUM: FW: Hogmanay

date posted 19th December 2003 10:27

Andrew Wilson wrote: > anyone? > > The town of Biggar, near where I live / work have the biggest bonfire in > Europe (world?) on Hogmanay. They want to web cam the event to > www.hogmanay.net who wil...

FN-FORUM: FW: Hogmanay

date posted 19th December 2003 10:14

anyone? Andrew _________________________ Andrew Wilson Productions Web Design & Hosting Print Design - Graphics - Multimedia tel: 01899 220 300 mob: 07785 248 554 web: www.awp.co.uk -----Original Me...

RE: FN-FORUM: MySQL ordering

date posted 19th December 2003 10:07

Got it from here , if that helps, http://www.databasejournal.com/features/mssql/article.php/1438901 dec -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL REMOVED] [EMAIL REMOVED] On Behalf Of Nick Grimsh...

Re: FN-FORUM: MySQL ordering

date posted 19th December 2003 10:07

Tony Crockford wrote: > Does MySQL support ORDER BY CASE? Looks like it does although it may differ from version to version (no mention of versions on the doc page). http://www.mysql.com/doc/en/Con...

Re: FN-FORUM: AllWebMenus (replacement?)

date posted 19th December 2003 10:05

On 19 Dec 2003 10:22:33 -0000, Tim Pizey [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > Can anyone suggest a better way of generating a menu > from a tree structure in a database? > > yours > Tim Pizey the accepted "CS...

RE: FN-FORUM: MySQL ordering

date posted 19th December 2003 10:01

Tony Crockford: > Does MySQL support ORDER BY CASE? > > I couldn't see it in the manual. Yup. I hadn't heard of it before either, so I tried it. ;O) - Nick Grimshaw { if you're not part of the so...

RE: FN-FORUM: Sage Line 50 question

date posted 19th December 2003 09:58

I'm no Sage expert but having been looking at V10 with a view to import using the CSV functions which sounds like what you're wanting to do, the answer seems to be that you cannot print them. They're...

Re: FN-FORUM: MySQL ordering

date posted 19th December 2003 09:58

On 19 Dec 2003 10:06:22 -0000, Derek Almond [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > > Something along the lines of... > > > SELECT *, status > FROM table > ORDER BY CASE status > WHEN '1' then A >...

FN-FORUM: AllWebMenus (replacement?)

date posted 19th December 2003 09:49

Hi,=20 My partner (a designer) and I are writing a=20 database backed website using http://melati.net/=20 This will be our first venture into CSS, and we are both=20 a bit intimidated.=20 But the bi...

FN-FORUM: Sage Line 50 question

date posted 19th December 2003 09:35

Does anyone here use or develop for Sage Line 50? I have created an export file of invoices from my Ad Booking system to import into Sage (using Audit Trail Import) to put invoices for ad bookings i...

RE: FN-FORUM: MySQL ordering

date posted 19th December 2003 09:33

Something along the lines of... SELECT *, status FROM table ORDER BY CASE status WHEN '1' then A WHEN '2' then B WHEN '3' then C WHEN '4' then B...

Re: FN-FORUM: MySQL ordering

date posted 19th December 2003 09:30

On 19 Dec 2003 09:49:08 -0000, Iain Bruce [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > > Hi all, > > Need some advice with ordering and MySQL, please. > > I need search results ordered by a number field called status. T...

FN-FORUM: MySQL ordering

date posted 19th December 2003 09:16

Hi all, Need some advice with ordering and MySQL, please. I need search results ordered by a number field called status. This status relates to the state of each item in the database, eg: 0 = item...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 08:46

On 19 Dec 2003 02:27:21 -0000, Oktal [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > >> I responded to what I thought was a mild attack against a view I believe > in. > > You've always been the first to point out to people...

RE: FN-FORUM: OT : To ski or board ........?!

date posted 19th December 2003 08:40

Just wanted to say a quick "thankyou" to those that responded - should help him make a decision :-)...

Re: FN-FORUM: OT: friday funny... on thursday

date posted 19th December 2003 02:31

"The lovely thing about the Web is that allows complete imbeciles to parade their inadequacy in front of a global audience." Ahhhh...that's a keeper. Damon : Base-8...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 02:11

Hey James > Yes, I really want to explain to clients that my obsession with CSS > means 25% of potential customers can't view the pages I've made Lets not believe all that Apple tell us, eh? Think...

Re: FN-FORUM: Look ma, no tables! (WARNING : Long...sorry)

date posted 19th December 2003 01:54

> I responded to what I thought was a mild attack against a view I believe in. You've always been the first to point out to people that tables are for tabular data and a valid part of XHTML/HTML - th...

Re: FN-FORUM: OT: friday funny... on thursday

date posted 19th December 2003 01:50

here it is: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItem&category=10460&item=2449414101 this guy cracks me up!! On 19 Dec 2003, at 01:58, [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > Hi David > > Couldn't open th...

Re: FN-FORUM: OT: friday funny... on thursday

date posted 19th December 2003 01:25

on 18/12/03 2:09 PM, [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: >funnies start early cos it is nearly xmas... > >I am this grumpy, i just wish i was this eloquent. > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2...



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