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Re: FN-FORUM: Portfolio

date posted 7th January 2006 09:28

yes it was based on a free template, and the text, is my own.

richard

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Singer" [EMAIL REMOVED]
To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: FN-FORUM: Portfolio



here, here. I think we've had enough slating for tonight, he seems to
have taken everything onboard which is the main thing.

Richard, as Steve says you should know what are you excel in, if you
don't you need to think about it, are you a designer or a developer
and what do you excel in? The key thing you need is experience and
contacts, to start with try and get a job working for somebody else,
doing this you'll gain the expereince and hopefully start to build up
a contact list. Learn more than you need in your job, read up on
background information and try to get small side projects so you can
further get experience and build contacts (but don't ever try and
poach work from your employer!). And listen to critisism, accept you
will get it and most importantly learn from it.

Can I ask, is http://itsoftwaresolutions.co.uk/ based on a template
from http://www.websitetemplates.name/ and are you really developing
an SMS plugin for Outlook or have you just copied the text from
http://www.redoxygen.com/products/outlooksms.asp ?

Tom

On 7 Jan 2006 00:08:09 -0000, Neil Kay-Jones
[EMAIL REMOVED] wrote:
>
> I reckon all should drop this and realise that richard by now has
> learnt by his mistakes which in the begining may be to test things
> out or not but the only person he is hurting is himself.
>
> No point carrying this on. The only time you should download peoples
> pages off the web is to see how they have done things but not to
> replicate that. It should be used as a learning curve like creating
> your own tutorials and is an honour if someone is interested in how
> you have done somthing.
>
> To completely rip off in any way is a definate no no.
>
> Influences are fine but make sure they are not a rip off. (Fine line
> i know)
>
> Can't believe my inbow has been filling up with this while i have
> been away.
>
> Richard: If you are to start out again and if my quick skip through
> is right that you want to promote your work by creating a site
> portfolio then go find your inspiration in what ever manner, absorb
> it, don't look at it again while you are creating your own identity
> and go create a mind blowing experience for the user. Main thing is
> to think inside the mind of your target audience. Not rocket science
> but there is a nack.
>
> What would they want to see and why!
>
> Anyway if i have got it wrong and this is not what you want then i
> will shut up too in order to end this crap.
>
> Neil
>
>
> On 6 Jan 2006, at 23:49, richard wrote:
>
> >
> > so jd, if you were starting out again, what's the first thing I
> > should learn
> > and do?
> >
> > richard
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "jd" [EMAIL REMOVED]
> > To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
> > Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 11:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: FN-FORUM: Portfolio
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> It is fair enough to say that we all start out somewhere and it is
> >> fair
> >> enough to look at what other designers do and use that as a basis of
> >> designing a site - ie something similar to www.......
> >>
> >> But to rip something off virtually 100percent is out of order - no
> > designer
> >> would want that to happen to them
> >>
> >> I have had people ask me to virtually recreate quoted sites and I
> >> have
> > said
> >> no, I will do something along the same lines but not identical, it
> > reflects
> >> badly on me as someone who claims to be a designer
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Legal issues aside, recreating someone elses work will reflect
> >> badly on
> > you
> >> when you are eventually found out and if the word spreads - you are
> > buggered
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> It is far more satisfying to be happy with your own ideas, learn
> >> from your
> >> own mistakes and develop from there
> >>
> >>
> >> And sam is correct in saying it is sticking two fingers up at other
> >> designers
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 6/1/06 11:26 pm, "Sam Morgan" [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> "MY BETTER SITES", sorry pal don't even go there. Passing of someone
> > else's
> >>> work as your own is not only extremely bad form but most likely
> >>> illegal.
> >>> It's also sticking your middle finger up the rest of us who have
> >>> spent
> > years
> >>> designing and coding to build up our portfolio rather than stealing.
> >>>
> >>> I really hope you get what you deserve.
> >>>
> >>> Sam Morgan
> >>>
> >>> WIREDEYES - Internet Consultancy
> >>> tel : 020 7100 2178
> >>> fax : 0871 433 2278
> >>> web : http://www.wiredeyes.com
> >>> ----
> >>> umop ap!sdn w,! aw dlaH
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: [EMAIL REMOVED] [EMAIL REMOVED] On
> >>>> Behalf Of richard
> >>>> Sent: 06 January 2006 23:55
> >>>> To: FN-FORUM / [EMAIL REMOVED]
> >>>> Subject: Re: FN-FORUM: Portfolio
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> any advice for me then, as two of my better sites have now gone
> >>>> down?
> >>>>
> >>>> and I had interviews coming up as well, where I needed to
> >>>> show examples of
> >>>> my work.
> >>>>
> >>>> richard
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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