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Re: FN-FORUM: Reloading Flash
date posted 18th January 2006 17:09
I tried explaining this to the deisgner/developer last year when the
bandwidth exploded and he refused to accept the file was loading
everytime, oh well. I simply couldn't be bothered to argue.
Thanks for the feedback.
Andrew
>
> not really i was referring to the question has 10000 bandwidth been used.
> however you could use a script that uses a cookie or something to decide
> whether to point the browser to a local directory once it hads been
> downloaded once!! If you are basically looking for more efficiaent use of
> bandwidth.
>
> AlsoYou html uses absolute referencing i noticed. So it absolutely loads
> from the site ever time.
>
> Hope this helps further
>
> Peter
>
>>From: [EMAIL REMOVED]
>>Reply-To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
>>To: "FN-FORUM / [EMAIL REMOVED] [EMAIL REMOVED]
>>Subject: Re: FN-FORUM: Reloading Flash
>>Date: 18 Jan 2006 16:59:24 -0000
>>
>>
>>I think you read the question incorrectly Peter, I wasn't looking for a
>>scientific calculation for bandwidth usage. More simply I am asking is
>>the same flash file being loaded from the server everytime? I presume
>>that every flash setup is different. I have a 700k flash file that
>>streams in instantaneously on one domain and it has no detrimental effect
>>on bandwidth.
>>
>>I'll give you an example
>>www.bleubolt.co.uk/wear/default.php
>>
>>Hit the refresh or any other page and the header document containing the
>>flash runs the preloader everytime!
>>
>>are we all saying that this incurrs no bandwidth becuase the cached file
>>is executed? Bandwidth for this site has jumped nearly 100% since the
>>'designer' put his flash up.
>>
>>Andrew
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > In response to...
>> >> > >
>> >> > > just to clarify something with flash, when a flash file does that
>>1%
>> >> -
>> >>2%
>> >> > > >>>>>>100% loading thing is it reloading the file everytime it
>> goes
>> >> > > thorugh this relaod process or is it just visual? If a 100k file
>>is
>> >> > > loaded 10 time has 10000k worth of bandwidth been used?
>> >
>> >
>> > The transport layer is quite far removed and VERY indepentdent, from
>> the
>> > application layer, therefore download speeds have very little to do
>> with
>> > the
>> > format or type of the file. IIf you consider a traffic tunnel, the
>> > bandwidth
>> > is the width of this tunnel, the speed limit upon the traffic is the
>>rate
>> > at
>> > which the data flows...in short it is impossible to use anymore
>>bandwidth
>> > tahn is available to the slowest machine. In short you have only used
>>that
>> > ammount of bandwidth in the same sense as total man hours to complete
>> a
>> > task.
>> >
>> > hope this clarifys#
>> >
>> > Peter
>> >
>> >>From: Steve Rowe [EMAIL REMOVED]
>> >>Reply-To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
>> >>To: "FN-FORUM / [EMAIL REMOVED] [EMAIL REMOVED]
>> >>Subject: Re: FN-FORUM: Reloading Flash
>> >>Date: 18 Jan 2006 16:28:15 -0000
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>On 18 Jan 2006 15:51:32 -0000, Tam Denholm [EMAIL REMOVED]
>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > On 18 Jan 2006 15:46:03 -0000, [EMAIL REMOVED]
>> >> > [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > just to clarify something with flash, when a flash file does that
>>1%
>> >> -
>> >>2%
>> >> > > >>>>>>100% loading thing is it reloading the file everytime it
>> goes
>> >> > > thorugh this relaod process or is it just visual? If a 100k file
>>is
>> >> > > loaded 10 time has 10000k worth of bandwidth been used?
>> >> >
>> >> > I know nothing about flash but an educated guess would be that a
>>100kb
>> >> > file would take 100kb of bandwidth per download(give or take a few
>> >> > kb), its just downloading the flash file to be played on your
>> >> > computer.
>> >> >
>> >> > If your theory were true i doubt anyone would ever use flash.
>> >> >
>> >> > Tam
>> >> > --
>> >> > www.dreadlabs.com
>> >>
>> >>A browser loads the Flash movie from its cache if it's available.
>> >>
>> >>A preload routine in the first few frames of the movie is executed by
>> >>the Flash player as it loads, typically looping over three frames and
>> >>counting the number of bytes loaded into the Flash player and
>> >>displaying it as percent/bytes loaded. When bytes loaded equals the
>> >>size of the file it exits the loop and plays the rest of the movie.
>> >>
>> >>So If it's retrieved from the cache the preload routine will still be
>> >>seen to execute but for a shorter time.
>> >>
>> >>Steve
>> >>
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