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Re: FN-FORUM: FW: Could be a CSS thing?

date posted 17th May 2006 22:09

Sean

Tony wasn't making a personal comment when suggesting your advice was
not valid. He knows his stuff. If you stick with this list you'll
see he's as about as helpful as it gets.

Paul

On 17 May 2006 16:17:10 -0000, Sean J Connolly
[EMAIL REMOVED] wrote:
>
> What are you talking about, I don't use Dreamweaver, never have never wil=
l.
>
> My suggestion to using absolute positioning was intended as general advic=
e
> on page layouts.
>
> I think you need to learn what you are talking about before you write
> anything, I hand code all my CSS and am fully certified to do so.
>
> As you said yourself "divs do not have to be "inside" each other -
> semantically they just mark out sections on the page..." I never said tha=
t
> divs should be inside each other, but if you position anything inside a d=
iv
> it should be with a SPAN, as I said before a span is an empty unknown obj=
ect
> to the browser, a div by default is known and with inherit properties fro=
m
> it's parent.
>
> Div's are page elements and not just for marking out the page, that is wh=
at
> the use of z-index and float, clear and such are used for, as DIV are kno=
wn
> to people like myself "who know what they are talking about" as layers. =
In
> English they are the layers of the DOM on the page, and no I am not going=
to
> tell you what the DOM is, if you don't know, well...
>
> I have to say you comment " That's not terribly good advice..." is way
> outside the realms of good forum behaviour.
>
> We are all playing in the same game hear, the forum is meant to be an aid
> for us all to help each other and make this life of development a little
> more acceptable. Each time I come across a know it all like you I just th=
ink
> why are you even on this planet!!!!!!!!!!!!
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> Subject: Re: FN-FORUM: FW: Could be a CSS thing?
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>
> Sean J Connolly wrote:
> > You need to put the layers inside each other particularly the BoxTop an=
d
> > BoxMid classed layers, also a note when using layers you should really =
use
> > SPAN's inside DIV's not DIV's inside DIV's, as span have not inherent
> > formatting where as divs do.
> >
> > The alternative is to position everything absolutely and set a z-index =
for
> > each item.
>
>
> That's not terribly good advice...
>
> I suspect it's from a dreamweaver user's perspective?
>
> divs do not have to be "inside" each other - semantically they just
> mark out sections on the page...
>
> spans are inline elements and div's are block level elements, and if
> the have "inherent" formatting it's coming from that fact alone...
>
> positioning everything absolutely is a very unfriendly way of doing
> things and almost certain to break...
>
> I think your advice is probably more confusing than helpful, but fair
> play for trying.
>
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