Re: FN-FORUM: Mentoring (was: Programmers)

date posted 15th May 2007 16:49

> OK, so I'm a moody sod lol.

I don't think so :) I agree when ever I've had a problem to do with design
and development google has been my first and in all cases last stop for
help.

Though I think some people on the list may feel more comfortable asking for
help here as it feels more like a community, maybe? happy, helpful, safe,
real!

But there are a lot of posts that I don't think google could answer as well
as they can be on here like when a person is screwing over some code that
isn't working and the best option would be for someone with knowledge to
take a look first hand and see if they can figure it out.

You may call it lazy to use this forum for help rather than google but I
don't think so just use what you feel more comfortable with or which ever
you feel is a more reliable/successful place to get help.


Martin
www.atdc.co.uk



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From: "lee fogarty" [EMAIL REMOVED]
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Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: FN-FORUM: Mentoring (was: Programmers)


>
> On 15 May 2007 15:24:47 -0000, Dom Latter [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote:
>>
>> On Tuesday 15 May 2007 7:47 am, Peter Agambar wrote:
>>
>> > I often read posts asking how to do this or that, and in the past have
>> > thought to myself that it has taken me 20 years to build up these
>> > skill,
>> > spent loads of money on training courses and the right degree why
>> > should I
>> > give this knowledge away for free. If the work is too complex for
>> > someone
>> > who has taken on a project, then perhaps they should either employ
>> > someone
>> > who can do the work, or not take on the project at all.
>>
>> Most people realise when they are out of their depth, and will call on
>> professional help - frequently from the person who has been the most
>> helpful up to that point.
>>
>> > But that was all in the past, I've now taken to reading the posts and
>> > if I
>> > feel someone requires help I try and do this off list, with the
>> > original
>> > poster free to either accept the advice or disregard it.
>>
>> On list, please, unless there's a particular reason not to share it with
>> everyone else.
>>
>> > Without any quick way of distinguishing posts of seasoned professionals
>> > looking for a quick answer, or a newbee needing direction the level of
>> > help
>> > will always be a bit hit and miss.
>>
>> The question itself usually gives it away, I find.
>>
>> --
>
> What bugs me big time is the number of questions that get asked that a
> 2 second google search would fix. It seems to me that lists such as
> this are used for laziness. How many basic PHP questions do we get
> that have answers in the manual?
>
> What happened to good old fashioned problem solving? If I hit
> something I can't do, I google it. That way, I am not relying on
> other people and am actually learning for next time.
>
> The best questions on here are the ones that we really have to think
> about (I think it was Pamela that posted a tricky SQL one recently?)
>
> I wonder how many people that post replies actually google them first?
> Doing someone elses work for them.
>
> OK, so I'm a moody sod lol.
>
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