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Freelancers Forum Messages on Wednesday May 16th 2007

Re: FN-FORUM: Ordnance Survey map data

date posted 16th May 2007 23:50

> When asked to do this for commercial sites, such a villa properties or > holiday lettings, I either use a geocoder in the google search tool, > AJAX it > and pull out the coordinates, all within t...

FN-FORUM: Fw: OT: Tony's "To Do" List

date posted 16th May 2007 23:16

> (A secret Downing Street memo leaked to the The Independent.) > > > 1. Buy top-floor flat in Whitehall with view of Downing Street and > install hyper-broadband for special red Blairphone connec...

Re: FN-FORUM: Ordnance Survey map data

date posted 16th May 2007 23:02

> I do a lot of Google Map Mash-ups and I gets asked the commercial > no-commercial question all the time. If the site is commercial in any= way > then better to be safe than sorry, for non commercia...

RE: FN-FORUM: Ordnance Survey map data

date posted 16th May 2007 22:34

I think it really comes down to the fact that the OS have spent millions collecting and storing the data. So they are very protective of it. If any underlying data is from the OS source then they ca...

Re: FN-FORUM: Ordnance Survey map data

date posted 16th May 2007 21:21

> I may be wide of the mark here, but if I read a map, create a list of > grid references and give them to you that isn't a map. > > if I then mark those points on my map then I've marked up my map....

RE: FN-FORUM: Storing CC details?

date posted 16th May 2007 20:46

I agree Matt. I've used protx many times and always reliable, easy to configure and takes away the headache. Peter ________________________________ > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL...

RE: FN-FORUM: Storing CC details?

date posted 16th May 2007 20:35

If you want to give refunds, how about using something like www.protx.com instead of storing the details on your own site? Just a thought... Matt -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL REMOVED] [...

Re: FN-FORUM: Storing CC details?

date posted 16th May 2007 20:30

Hi Peter, I have read something about this in the meantime. I absolutely agree with you that there is no reason to store CC data. Client is thinking about it only because they need to give credit ca...

RE: FN-FORUM: Storing CC details?

date posted 16th May 2007 20:28

Far better if you need to allow "re-purchase" is to use a provide that will provide a continuous authorisation or similar so that instead of storing a credit card you store an authentication key which...

RE: FN-FORUM: Storing CC details?

date posted 16th May 2007 20:17

Jurai, This is covered under the data protection act, and the freedom of information act, as well as Sarbanes Oxley, Financial regulation act and a host of other regulations. I think it's not the ca...

FN-FORUM: Storing CC details?

date posted 16th May 2007 19:44

Hi all, Any idea if storing Credit Card details in a database (except CVV) is legal in the UK and if it requires a licence? Thanks Jay...

RE: FN-FORUM: Ordnance Survey map data

date posted 16th May 2007 18:37

=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL REMOVED] [EMAIL REMOVED] On Behalf Of = Anthony > Cartmell > Sent: 16 May 2007 17:54 > To: FN-FORUM / [EMAIL REMOVED] > Subject: Re: FN-FORUM: Ordnance...

Re: FN-FORUM: Ordnance Survey map data

date posted 16th May 2007 17:47

> The formula for converting geospatial coordinates is common knowledge and > cannot be copyrighted, the same as you knowing where your house is and > telling someone how to get there. Yeah, I guess...

RE: FN-FORUM: Ordnance Survey map data

date posted 16th May 2007 17:10

Anthony, I've had many of these conversations with the OS, and in the end it = comes down to common sense, and in some respect this is the basis for the = European Database Directive. Along with man...

Re: FN-FORUM: Ordnance Survey map data

date posted 16th May 2007 16:47

Anthony Cartmell wrote: > You can convert a Lat&Lng into a grid reference without using an OS map, > but you do have to use an OS equation (or, at least, OS-defined > projection parameters). I have...

Re: FN-FORUM: Ordnance Survey map data

date posted 16th May 2007 15:59

> what you are saying is that I cannot give you a grid reference for my > house in order that you can find me. No, that would be OK as it's for "personal use". You would be required to state that...

Re: FN-FORUM: Ordnance Survey map data

date posted 16th May 2007 15:13

Peter Agambar wrote: > Tony, > > If the original grid locations were taken from an OS source (paper or > mapdata) then the OS can claim copyright. You would need to use a GPS and > go out and record...

Re: FN-FORUM: Ordnance Survey map data

date posted 16th May 2007 14:57

> If the original grid locations were taken from an OS source (paper or > mapdata) then the OS can claim copyright. You would need to use a GPS > and go out and record the LAT/LNG. How else can yo...

Re: FN-FORUM: Ordnance Survey map data

date posted 16th May 2007 14:54

Anthony Cartmell wrote: > >> It gets even more complex when you consider the update information >> supplied by the OS. > > Luckily I'm not actually interested, particularly, in the actual map > im...

Re: FN-FORUM: Ordnance Survey map data (was: Vector Map of UK & Ireland)

date posted 16th May 2007 14:48

> It gets even more complex when you consider the update information > supplied by the OS. Luckily I'm not actually interested, particularly, in the actual map images. All I'm worried about is wh...

Re: FN-FORUM: working from home

date posted 16th May 2007 14:32

Hi, There is one under the website noagencies.com - freelancers.net. Good luck with it. Regards, Allison On 16 May 2007 11:29:29 -0000, David Leedham [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > > Hello > > Does an...

RE: FN-FORUM: Ordnance Survey map data

date posted 16th May 2007 14:31

Tony, If the original grid locations were taken from an OS source (paper or mapdata) then the OS can claim copyright. You would need to use a GPS and go out and record the LAT/LNG. It's no differen...

RE: FN-FORUM: Ordnance Survey map data (was: Vector Map of UK & Ireland)

date posted 16th May 2007 14:29

Anthony, It gets even more complex when you consider the update information supplied by the OS. Does TeleAtlas, who purchase a copy of OS MasterMap, have the most up to date data? Or do they add va...

Re: FN-FORUM: Ordnance Survey map data (was: Vector Map of UK & Ireland)

date posted 16th May 2007 14:19

Interestingly the Google Maps map images for the UK are taken from TeleAtlas, which is in turn derived from OS data... Google have a license from OS, and I suppose the Maps API on my site uses th...

Re: FN-FORUM: Ordnance Survey map data

date posted 16th May 2007 14:15

Anthony Cartmell wrote: > The intention of the copyright is to protect the work carried out by the > OS, and the revenue they make from selling the data and licenses to use > it. I can't see how tr...

RE: FN-FORUM: Ordnance Survey map data (was: Vector Map of UK & Ireland)

date posted 16th May 2007 14:13

Anthony, This is getting into a very complex area of Copyright law and Intellectual property rights. As far as I understand the OS interpretation (and I have not seen any of this tried in case law)...

Re: FN-FORUM: Ordnance Survey map data (was: Vector Map of UK & Ireland)

date posted 16th May 2007 13:52

> The paper maps are fully covered by > copyright law that covers any written publication. Of course, I don't want to copy any OS map (paper or the equivalent electronic raster image). What I do w...

Re: FN-FORUM: Mentoring (was: Programmers)

date posted 16th May 2007 13:48

I also agree you are doing very well for yourself there James, I'm 21 but I didn't start quite as early as 16 so your self-motivation and perseverance is remarkable, good effort. I wish I had done a...

RE: FN-FORUM: Ordnance Survey map data (was: Vector Map of UK & Ireland)

date posted 16th May 2007 13:21

Anthony, I worked for the OS as part of the Skunkworks department and one of the last projects was looking at IPR issues and OS data (for use in the Orchestra DRM Model). Even at the Edinburgh OGC c...

Re: FN-FORUM: Vector Map of UK & Ireland

date posted 16th May 2007 13:03

> Two things spring to mind. Firstly be very careful with OS Data it's > very > well patented and any use outside the licence is jumped upon. It's also > watermarked. I've been talking to OS abou...

Re: FN-FORUM: Vector Map of UK & Ireland

date posted 16th May 2007 12:52

I don't think you're answering his question. He doesn't want google maps - he wants an eps / vector illustration of the British Isles with county boundaries. Google maps doesn't show the county boun...

Re: FN-FORUM: Vector Map of UK & Ireland

date posted 16th May 2007 12:51

> As far as I'm aware google offers their Google Maps API for free for > non-commercial sites. And you could add the property locations to the scrollable and zoomable map :) The Google Maps API is...

RE: FN-FORUM: Vector Map of UK & Ireland

date posted 16th May 2007 12:43

Steve, Two things spring to mind. Firstly be very careful with OS Data it's very well patented and any use outside the licence is jumped upon. It's also watermarked. As for Ireland county boarders...

RE: FN-FORUM: Vector Map of UK & Ireland

date posted 16th May 2007 12:40

If you read the Google API licence it isn't as straight forward as that. = It can be used on a commercial website as long as there is unrestricted = free access to the map (unrestricted - anyone can...

Re: FN-FORUM: Vector Map of UK & Ireland

date posted 16th May 2007 12:24

As far as I'm aware google offers their Google Maps API for free for non-commercial sites. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Lavine" [EMAIL REMOVED] To: [EMAIL REMOVED] Sent: Wednesday, Ma...

FN-FORUM: working from home

date posted 16th May 2007 12:23

Hello Does anyone out there know of a site or agency which deals predominantly with I.T. freelancers working from home? For family reasons I now need to work from home full-time. Any assistance great...

RE: FN-FORUM: Mentoring (was: Programmers)

date posted 16th May 2007 12:15

I have to agree with Ben, it is very encouraging to see this sort of enthusiasm and should not go unrewarded. And if your into AJAX and XML then you are definitely heading in the right direction for f...

FN-FORUM: Vector Map of UK & Ireland

date posted 16th May 2007 12:01

Hi, I'm working on a redevelopment of a site for a friend, the url is http://www.holiday-guide.com. She want's the map of the UK and Ireland updating with the correct county boundries etc I have fo...

RE: FN-FORUM: Mentoring (was: Programmers)

date posted 16th May 2007 08:33

Hi James Where are you based? What is your personal email? Can we speak on the phone? Regards Ben Merrell [EMAIL REMOVED] www.bm-media.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL REMOVED] [EM...

RE: FN-FORUM: Mentoring (was: Programmers)

date posted 16th May 2007 08:00

James Herrington wrote: > I've been reading the thread with great interest and would be very=20 > interested in being 'mentored'. I'm just taking my GCSE's and in about = > a months time will have an...



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