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Freelancers Forum Messages on Monday June 4th 2007

Re: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 23:49

> The reaction at the News now (BBC1). Not one nice word! The one good thing about the logo is the amount of humour it's generated= over at b3ta.com. (Probably not for the easily offended, though!)...

Re: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 22:22

http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/6719747.stm The alternatives as designed by the public, predictable, boring, illustrations. I rest my case....

Re: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 22:02

The reaction at the News now (BBC1). Not one nice word! Bo Bo Persson, M.A. Independent Fashion Researcher [EMAIL REMOVED] Skype name: bossep64 http://bopersson64.wordpress.com/ http://culturedevel...

RE: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 21:10

We Well... I don't love it, I don't hate it... I'm more worried about whether the Olympic site will be finished in time. 5 Years isn't that long considering Wembley took like FOREVER......

Re: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 20:58

I agree, I quite like it to, its grown on me during the day and it does have to last 5 years. It is aimed at a younger age group to get them exercising and taking part and I think it will do the tr...

Re: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 20:35

bah humbug! lol, Now, now Mr Scrooge, calm yourself. it is not the role of the logo to communicate about london, community etc. that will be done through accompanying images. Some logos try to do...

Re: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 19:58

The website was too slow Anyone so effing stupid to not bother putting a progress bar for hefty movies is not doing there job properly Your point about people not knowing about art and design (a...

Re: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 18:43

JD do check out the bit on the WO website, cos actually it is quite flexible in use. As to it being an incredible piece of design, mmmm does it need to be? All the quotes given are by people tryin...

RE: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 18:27

http://www.wolff-olins.com/ hate it! Now i can agree on that point. No progress bars on 1.9mb who.swf? Had to check the activity log to see why the site did not work... sigh. Did have loading dis...

Re: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 18:12

Hmmmmmmm.... I am not saying I could do better, but here is the point ... It really is not good enough that design agencies living in their ivory towers telling us that this is an incredible piec...

Re: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 18:08

On Monday 04 Jun 2007 2:52 pm, Juraj Seffer wrote: > Even this is better :) > http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/33/Mexico1968.jpg Kewell. Reminiscent of both Bridget Riley's contemporary p...

RE: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 18:08

The inspiration? http://aeioup.com/ohlympic_logoh.htm -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL REMOVED] [EMAIL REMOVED] On Behalf Of Malcolm Izatt Sent: 04 June 2007 13:34 To: FN-FORUM / [EMAIL REMOV...

Re: FN-FORUM: Currency Validation in Javascript

date posted 4th June 2007 17:53

On Sunday 03 Jun 2007 9:38 pm, Ben Johnson (Neogic) F wrote: > I wrote: > > > Evil sucky language. > > "Evil sucky language" if you don't know it well, same for any language! It's the other way round...

RE: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 17:50

I have a suggestion; there are many designers out there who no doubt are very talented, why not suggest (i.e. send them yours) other logo designs? Over to you guys, the rest of us can giggle as they...

Re: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 17:45

I actually quite like it. A brand is a lot more than a logo. As to a logo inspiring anyone, i think we all can engage our brains and see it is what it represents that is to inspire athletic achi...

Re: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 17:27

I forgot to add 'not in my name' On 4/6/07 4:43 pm, "Tony Crockford" [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > > Malcolm Izatt wrote: > >> Does Wolff Ollins refund policy? > > I think they have a "the logo w...

Re: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 17:26

Just been watching the 'moving iages' from bbc news 24 - it is very reminiscent of the opening titles for 'going live' or another 80's kids/teens show What a disappointment On 4/6/07 4:43 p...

FN-FORUM: Innova Editor and Firefox

date posted 4th June 2007 17:08

Hi, I'm doing some mods to a pre-existing CMS in classic ASP. There's a few instances of the Innova WYSIWYG editor. None of them work in Firefox and I was just wondering if anyone else uses this edi...

Re: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 16:32

Malcolm Izatt wrote: > Does Wolff Ollins refund policy? I think they have a "the logo will evolve" get out clause to soak up even more money... ;)...

Re: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 16:21

I have just heard on the Radio, that the New 2012 olympic logo cost=20 =A3400,000 to develop. I am fully aware that branding and logo development when executed=20 properly is a process which takes ti...

Re: FN-FORUM: Anansi

date posted 4th June 2007 16:05

Thanks Pam. Panic over. I've just spoken to Brian. On 4 Jun 2007 15:04:29 -0000, pamela @ gconnect [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > > I don't have a phone number for anansi. All I know is that the Person's...

Re: FN-FORUM: Anansi

date posted 4th June 2007 15:53

I don't have a phone number for anansi. All I know is that the Person's name is Brian and the Emaill address is [EMAIL REMOVED] if that is any help. Pam...

FN-FORUM: Anansi

date posted 4th June 2007 15:41

Hi Does anyone remember Norman Beresford and his company (Anansi) that used this list several years back? He left the company to work full-time and sold his share to his business partner. Anyway I'...

Re: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 15:10

On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 02:08:04PM -0000, Bo Persson wrote: > > I have not test it in Safari but if it works in FF. I'm using firefox 1.5 under Linux (CentOS). -- Alain Williams Linux Consultant -...

Re: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 15:08

David J MacKillican wrote: > Here we have what is a whole lot better, until they update with the > new logo > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_2012_Olympic_bid They won't update it. The logo o...

RE: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 15:07

At 13:23 +0000 4/6/07, David J MacKillican wrote: >See their site; > >http://www.wolff-olins.com/ > >hate it! And slow!? It's like swimming in glue! Who are these idiots? --...

Re: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 15:03

It would only be a matter of time before El Reg got it: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06/04/olympic_logo/ Anthony -- www.fonant.com - Quality web sites...

Re: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 14:56

DONT LOOK INTO THE EYES, it hypnotizes you to "love the new 2012 logo. arrrrrrhhhh its got me.... Its a great logo, I really like it. On 4 Jun 2007, at 2:58 pm, David J MacKillican wrote: > > Ou...

Re: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 14:56

I have not test it in Safari but if it works in FF. Bo Bo Persson, M.A. Independent Fashion Researcher [EMAIL REMOVED] Skype name: bossep64 http://bopersson64.wordpress.com/ http://culturedevelopme...

RE: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 14:54

Here we have what is a whole lot better, until they update with the new logo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_2012_Olympic_bid :) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL REMOVED] [EMAIL REMOVED...

Re: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 14:53

That one is 'artistic'. It's fun too. Far more brainpower in this one compared to London 2012. Bo Bo Persson, M.A. Independent Fashion Researcher [EMAIL REMOVED] Skype name: bossep64 http://boper...

Re: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 14:46

On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 01:41:52PM -0000, Steven Lavine wrote: > > David J MacKillican wrote: > >See their site; > > > >http://www.wolff-olins.com/ > > > >hate it! > > > > > OMG.. What a beast. Th...

RE: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 14:46

Ouch my eyes!!!! Done by the same lot? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL REMOVED] [EMAIL REMOVED] On Behalf Of Juraj Seffer Sent: 04 June 2007 14:53 To: FN-FORUM / [EMAIL REMOVED] Subject: Re:...

Re: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 14:43

Agree! The eye is not nice at all. 'Big Brother'. Bo Bo Persson, M.A. Independent Fashion Researcher [EMAIL REMOVED] Skype name: bossep64 http://bopersson64.wordpress.com/ http://culturedevelopmenta...

Re: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 14:41

Horrible, doesn't make any sense to me. And those yellow edges!! Even this is better :) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/33/Mexico1968.jpg Jay On 4 Jun 2007 12:35:00 -0000, Malcolm Izatt...

Re: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 14:30

David J MacKillican wrote: > See their site; > > http://www.wolff-olins.com/ > > hate it! > > OMG.. What a beast. That eye really gets on my t*ts Steve...

Re: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 14:27

Look closely again and see if you can see a Bart Simpson look-alike with London tatooed on his forearm, doing the unspeakable with another simpson, wearing a carrier bag on their (her/his) head. ;o...

Re: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 14:27

They have certainly managed to get the attention. =3DD Bo Bo Persson, M.A. Independent Fashion Researcher [EMAIL REMOVED] Skype name: bossep64 http://bopersson64.wordpress.com/ http://culturedevelop...

Re: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 14:20

On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 01:10:58PM -0000, Vicki Sivess wrote: > > As my son just said when he saw it: "They *paid* for that?" "Out of the mouthes of babes ...." Quick: sign him up as a design consu...

RE: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 14:12

See their site; http://www.wolff-olins.com/=20 hate it! -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL REMOVED] [EMAIL REMOVED] On Behalf Of = Richard Fletcher Sent: 04 June 2007 14:17 To: FN-FORUM / [EMA...

Re: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 14:11

> http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/olympics_2012/6718243.stm > > THE RANT > What a mess I agree, there's nothing to it apart from some spiky shapes in garish colours. The "flexible" see...

Re: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 14:05

[EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > > Very very nasty. > > (and probably about £100-£250K for the effort). > > "Wolff Olins is in the reinvention business." I wonder what would a Wolff Olins wheel look lik...

Re: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 13:59

As my son just said when he saw it: "They *paid* for that?" Regards Vicki Malcolm Izatt wrote: > > Hi > > Has anyone seen the newly released 2012 Olympic logo. If you haven't > here is the link > >...

Re: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 13:58

Malcolm Izatt wrote: > > Hi > > Has anyone seen the newly released 2012 Olympic logo. If you haven't > here is the link > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/olympics_2012/6718243.stm...

RE: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 13:57

David J MacKillican http://www.djmwebservices.com your business open 24 hours just a quick question. Life changing/ extending cancer drug comes with a money back garuntee, don't work = don't pay...

Re: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 13:55

How utterly rubbish, You are always going to be in trouble when their 'justification' is that this design is supposed to appeal to the 'yoof', why not feature it as a tattoo on on some alcopopi...

Re: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 13:52

The photo on the BBC website of Seb Coe doing a 'king of the world' in front of the new logo reminds me of 1980's tv game show set design, I saw that image and thought 'krypton factor'. On 4 Jun 20...

Re: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 13:39

On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 12:34:36PM -0000, Malcolm Izatt wrote: > > Hi > > Has anyone seen the newly released 2012 Olympic logo. If you haven't > here is the link > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/h...

RE: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 13:35

Oooooh - and I just saw this "When people see the new brand, we want them to be inspired to make a positive change in their life... Tony Blair" So, I see a crap pile of jagged day-glo, then decide...

Re: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 13:35

Malcolm Izatt wrote: > Love to know what others thinks > Blechhh! if I hadn't been told it was 2012 I'd never have guessed, I was seeing a sort of tetris image and trying to work out if it was a...

Re: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 13:31

Oh dear.. I think the comments posted on the BBC site say it all: "I think we should be fair on the designers. They used 2 colours of fuzzy felt after all!" Col ----- [EMAIL REMOVED] http://www.cw...

RE: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 13:31

Oh dear is all I can think of saying -----Original Message----- http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/olympics_2012/6718243.stm...

RE: FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 13:27

Very very nasty. (and probably about =A3100-=A3250K for the effort). "Wolff Olins is in the reinvention business. We are at our best working = with visionary individuals and ambitious enterprises....

FN-FORUM: 2012 logo, oh dear what have they done?

date posted 4th June 2007 13:23

Hi Has anyone seen the newly released 2012 Olympic logo. If you haven't=20 here is the link http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/olympics_2012/6718243.stm THE RANT What a mess, or am I miss...

FN-FORUM: Diving in at the deep end

date posted 4th June 2007 12:47

Hi there everyone, I thought I'd ask whilst I search around elsewhere incase anyone is feeling generous and feels like helping me out with ideas. Basically, I have client who has a Joomla a site, c...

Re: FN-FORUM: Would you find this useful???

date posted 4th June 2007 11:20

I came across this which looks as if it does what you are describing, possible taking into account the obvious security issues already mentioned. I have only read about it, not played yet so not sur...

Re: FN-FORUM: Running the Gauntlet

date posted 4th June 2007 10:31

Richard Fletcher wrote: > > chris hill wrote: >> >>> i get hired cause i >>> know my xhtml/css/php/mysql and can write it with notepad and nothing >>> else if i really needed to. >> >> which is great,...

Re: FN-FORUM: Running the Gauntlet

date posted 4th June 2007 10:15

chris hill wrote: > >> i get hired cause i >> know my xhtml/css/php/mysql and can write it with notepad and nothing >> else if i really needed to. > > which is great, I fully agree that being able t...

Re: FN-FORUM: Running the Gauntlet

date posted 4th June 2007 09:57

>i get hired cause i > know my xhtml/css/php/mysql and can write it with notepad and nothing > else if i really needed to. which is great, I fully agree that being able to code with nothing but notep...

Re: FN-FORUM: Running the Gauntlet

date posted 4th June 2007 09:40

On 4 Jun 2007 08:19:49 -0000, chris hill [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote: > > "If you used a WYSIWYG, then sorry, but your a cowboy" > > Whats wrong with using a WYSIWYG such as dreamweaver? Well, i actually u...

Re: FN-FORUM: Running the Gauntlet

date posted 4th June 2007 09:09

"If you used a WYSIWYG, then sorry, but your a cowboy" Whats wrong with using a WYSIWYG such as dreamweaver? sure, the built in macromedia behaviours are a little bloated but I don't see an issue wit...

Re: FN-FORUM: [OT] Spam mailing to forum address

date posted 4th June 2007 08:48

> It may be filtered in the web forum but it's still listed in each email > header you send to freelancers mailing list and so available to any > spambot > infected zombie PC that receives Freelance...

RE: FN-FORUM: Running the Gauntlet

date posted 4th June 2007 08:00

Paul wrote: > Thank you Alex, I guess the heading of my post proved to be accurate=20 > but this is exactly the kind of advice that I was looking for. Wow, +1 to Paul for incredible restraint! Ther...

RE: FN-FORUM: Running the Gauntlet

date posted 4th June 2007 04:55

Thank you Alex, I guess the heading of my post proved to be accurate but this is exactly the kind of advice that I was looking for. I will go through all of what you've said when I've had some sleep...

Re: FN-FORUM: Running the Gauntlet

date posted 4th June 2007 00:17

Your site seems busy, way too busy for me and I think people would agree. It seems like there is a lot of text maybe its not that theirs lots of text just your layout and use of colour and images ma...



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