Re: FN-FORUM: Your Kingdom for a Donkey.

date posted 12th November 2007 12:09

I think that the problem is that anyone can build a web site.

Anyone can use the online site builder tools, frontpage or dreamweaver and
create a web site.

It may not be any good, usable, cross browser compliant or graphically
pleasant, but you can do it.

Typical converstaion is as follows.

Client: I want a web site, how much is it going to cost me?

Me: That really depends on what you require. What will the web site be used
for?

Client: Haven't really thought about it.

Me: For example, are you going to use it to communicate with exisiting /
potential customers or do you want to sell products via your site?

Client: Haven't really thought about it.

Me: Have you thought about what content you want on it?

Client: No

Me: Layout?

Client: No

Me: Colour scheme?

Client: No

Me: So why do you want a web site?

Client: I don't know really, everyone seems to have one nowadays.

Me: Ok, our prices start from Łxxx, additional costs are added for example
eCommerce systems or databases etc

Client: Really!!!!! That much? Theres a guy down the road advertising web
design for Ł20.

Me: Perhaps you better go there then.

I think that clients don't really understand how much work goes into a well
designed and built web site.

They also don't understand that a decent web site can complement their
business and that a poorly designed site could put potential customers off.

Regards

Rob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Banner - eLuminate Design" [EMAIL REMOVED]
To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: FN-FORUM: Your Kingdom for a Donkey.

>
> I have had this same problem many times. I think generally as a collective
> unit most clients have a fairly limited knowledge of the web and often are
> poorly advised by some backyard hack that can write three lines of code
> and
> believe paying such and such is a rip off.
>
> They are generally the same type of client that can't separate content
> creation and web design. Best advice get out while you can.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phillip Healey" [EMAIL REMOVED]
> To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:10 PM
> Subject: FN-FORUM: Your Kingdom for a Donkey.
>
>
>
> Here's a small snippet from a typical website where people are asking for
> some web development / addition to a current site to be carried out;
>
> 'I know it's a fairly quick, simple and small job for somebody with the
> right skills'
>
> Why is it that no-one/ very few people (except bigger corporations) give
> any
> real value to their websites / the work done by the developer. As im sure
> has been discussed many times before there are numerous, supposedly
> professional tender sites where people want Google, YouTube, Amazon and
> Ebay
> rolled into one website for an outlay of $500 / Ł230 and delivered within
> 'a
> few days'.
>
> I wouldn't tell a plumber its an easy job so ill pay him Ł5 and he can
> finish it within 10 minutes. Well, if I did he'd tell me to [EMAIL REMOVED] off!
>
> So why is it that even businesses whom have been burned in the past by
> paying low fees for a website, still want the world for no more than 20p
> and
> a few hours work, because it's an easy job? Am I alone in not only finding
> this frustrating, but somewhat arrogant?
>
> Discuss.
>
> Regards
> Phill Healey
> Munklefish
> Po Box 70
> Manchester
> M34 3SQ
> T: 0161 408 4759
>
>
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