Freelancers Forum Messages on Tuesday December 11th 2007
Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 22:47
On 11 Dec 2007 23:36:38 -0000, Gary Short [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote:
> >> In the meantime, may I suggest Occam's Razor?
>
> Hmmm, I feel the standard Occam's Razor misquote coming on.
"entia non sunt mul...
Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 22:36
> On Tuesday 11 December 2007 19:46:09 Nick Grimshaw wrote:
>
>> In the meantime, may I suggest Occam's Razor?
>
Hmmm, I feel the standard Occam's Razor misquote coming on....
Re: FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 22:34
Dom Latter wrote:
> On Tuesday 11 December 2007 18:44:03 Gary Short wrote:
>> On 11 Dec 2007 16:30:24 -0000, Dom Latter wrote
>>
>>> On Tuesday 11 December 2007 16:26:10 Gary Short wrote:
>>>> One, wh...
Re: FN-FORUM: RE: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 21:17
Fasthosts are a bunch of blithering idiots... >: (
On 11 Dec 2007 16:01:11 -0000, John Wooding [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote:
>
> > On 11/12/2007 14:20, Dom Latter wrote:
> >> On Tuesday 11 December 2007 14:...
Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 21:00
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 19:46:09 Nick Grimshaw wrote:
> In the meantime, may I suggest Occam's Razor?
People hack MS products because they can.
Does it get any simpler?...
Re: FN-FORUM: Search by proximity
date posted 11th December 2007 18:30
On 11 Dec 2007 15:34:13 -0000, Phillip Healey
[EMAIL REMOVED] wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm about to start work on a project that involves searching for places i=
n
> the database by various fields. So this...
Re: SPAM-LOW: FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 18:19
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 18:58:24 Nick Grimshaw wrote:
> Meh. I suspect that the proliferation of Windows Update and the
> infrequency of major Windows patches means that there are far fewer
> dis...
FN-FORUM: wall planners for cheap scates
date posted 11th December 2007 18:17
Just about to order a wall planner for next year (yes I know its not very
web 2.0) when it occurred to me that most people probably just get these for
free from other companies each year as part of a...
Re: FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 18:11
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 18:44:03 Gary Short wrote:
> On 11 Dec 2007 16:30:24 -0000, Dom Latter wrote
>
> > On Tuesday 11 December 2007 16:26:10 Gary Short wrote:
> > > One, what's in your webserve...
Re: FN-FORUM: OT - Xmas rip-off
date posted 11th December 2007 17:54
I would still try buying online from Argos as they came good last year last
minute.
They have just had Wii's in as well but its a case of being there at the
correct time.
----- Original Message -...
Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 17:46
Phillip Healey wrote:
>> It's a numbers game. The more calls and the more complex the
>> relationship between them, the harder it is to find and eliminate
>> bugs.
>
> Sure! But that doesn't neces...
Re: SPAM-LOW: FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 17:44
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 18:21:49 Phillip Healey wrote:
> How can a sample of 1 of anything be representative of anything????
You only need one TV set to see what's on TV....
Re: SPAM-LOW: FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 17:22
Phillip Healey wrote:
>> Err, that's with numerous machines. In any case a single IP address is as
>> pretty much as representative as any other.
>
> Without sounding offensive or pedantic.... Don't...
Re: FN-FORUM: OT - Xmas rip-off
date posted 11th December 2007 17:05
I just want Nicole for Xmas.
On 11/12/07 16:54, "Paul Cooper" [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the replies. I've given up. Same story everywhere ...
> maybe a delivery b4 Xmas but no gu...
Re: FN-FORUM: Search by proximity
date posted 11th December 2007 17:01
On 11/12/2007 16:43, Mark Pawelek wrote:
> On, Tuesday, Dec 11, 2007 3:44 pm, Martin Wheatley wrote:
>
>> On 11/12/2007 15:34, Phillip Healey wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I’m about to start work on a proje...
Re: SPAM-LOW: FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 16:58
Dom Latter wrote:
> On Tuesday 11 December 2007 16:38:57 Nick Grimshaw wrote:
>
>> I gather it's reasonably well-accepted that the reason we see more
>> viruses/trojans for Windows (compared to say,...
Re: SPAM-LOW: FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 16:54
On 11/12/2007 16:50, [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote:
>>> I gather it's reasonably well-accepted that the reason we see more
>>> viruses/trojans for Windows (compared to say, Macs) is due to the
>>> greater m...
Re: FN-FORUM: Best Job site software for me?
date posted 11th December 2007 16:51
Mark Pawelek wrote:
> 1) Can people recommend me open source code for creating a job recruitment
> website please.
>
> It doesn't have to be free. I'm looking for maximum flexibility. The client
>...
Re: FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 16:43
On 11 Dec 2007 16:30:24 -0000, Dom Latter wrote
> On Tuesday 11 December 2007 16:26:10 Gary Short wrote:
>
> > One, what's in your webserver logs is statistically insignificant. Two,
>
> That's from...
Re: FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 16:32
On 11 Dec 2007 16:29:41 -0000, Chris Austen wrote
> However, you've not answered the question - if you don't mean the
> Forrester research, to which research are you referring? As far as
> I'm aware,...
RE: SPAM-LOW: Re: FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 16:31
>It's a numbers game. The more calls and the more complex the
>relationship between them, the harder it is to find and eliminate
>bugs.
Sure! But that doesn't necessarily make one more secure tha...
RE: FN-FORUM: Search by proximity
date posted 11th December 2007 16:30
>This was discussed on this list a while back. There is (or was) a file
>http://www.jibble.org/ukpostcodes/ giving coordinates of the first 3
>digits of UK postcodes. Stick that in a database, and so...
Re: FN-FORUM: Search by proximity
date posted 11th December 2007 16:26
That last link: http://www.easypeasy.com/guides/article.php?article=64
Explains it all. There are even some scripts to create/load the data
into mySQL and php scripts to do all sorts of funky stuff...
RE: SPAM-LOW: FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 16:21
>Err, that's with numerous machines. In any case a single IP address is as
>pretty much as representative as any other.
Without sounding offensive or pedantic.... Don't be stupid!
How can a sample...
Re: SPAM-LOW: FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 16:15
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 17:08:09 [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote:
> When I were a lad the type of email from young Dom was spotted a mile away
> for what it was - a troll. An energy-efficient way (usually o...
Re: SPAM-LOW: FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 16:14
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 16:59:23 Gary Short wrote:
> Actually it indicates nothing. The motivation behind the hacking is
> different. For OS hacking the hackers want zombie machines, therefore
>...
Re: FN-FORUM: Search by proximity
date posted 11th December 2007 16:12
Whoops, sorry.
Try: http://www.easypeasy.com/guides/article.php?article=64
Phillip Healey wrote:
>
>
>> You can get a free file (no idea of accuracy) for mapping to just the
>> outcode part of po...
Re: SPAM-LOW: FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 16:00
[EMAIL REMOVED] wrote:
> Smiley or not, if you can't spot a troll, and especially such a blatant one,
> then perhaps you may like to consider buying my Credulity Checker software?
> It gives you a gul...
Re: SPAM-LOW: FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 15:54
Gary Short wrote:
> On 11 Dec 2007 15:38:13 -0000, Nick Grimshaw wrote
>> I gather it's reasonably well-accepted that the reason we see more
>> viruses/trojans for Windows (compared to say, Macs) is...
Re: FN-FORUM: OT - Xmas rip-off
date posted 11th December 2007 15:53
Thanks for all the replies. I've given up. Same story everywhere ...
maybe a delivery b4 Xmas but no guarantees. It's for my Aunt (wants
that brain game thingy Nicole Kidman advertised but I might...
RE: SPAM-LOW: FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 15:49
>> I gather it's reasonably well-accepted that the reason we see more=20
>> viruses/trojans for Windows (compared to say, Macs) is due to the=20
>> greater market share that Windows enjoys. Considerin...
Re: SPAM-LOW: FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 15:43
Phillip Healey wrote (quoting me):
>> Considering that more webservers run Apache than *everything else
>> combined* might seem to indicate something.
>
>> http://news.netcraft.com/archives/web_serve...
Re: FN-FORUM: Search by proximity
date posted 11th December 2007 15:42
On, Tuesday, Dec 11, 2007 3:44 pm, Martin Wheatley wrote:
> On 11/12/2007 15:34, Phillip Healey wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I’m about to start work on a project that involves searching for places
>> in
>> t...
Re: SPAM-LOW: FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 15:39
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 16:38:57 Nick Grimshaw wrote:
> I gather it's reasonably well-accepted that the reason we see more
> viruses/trojans for Windows (compared to say, Macs) is due to the
> gr...
Re: FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 15:31
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 16:26:10 Gary Short wrote:
> One, what's in your webserver logs is statistically insignificant. Two,
That's from lots of different IP addresses in lots of different count...
Re: FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 15:30
On 11 Dec 2007 15:46:44 -0000, Gary Short [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote:
> > But this 'research', it isn't the recent "MS has released less
> > bug-fixes, therefore it's more secure" one is it? The one
> > co...
Re: SPAM-LOW: FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 15:21
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 16:22:37 Phillip Healey wrote:
> That's not strictly true! If apache has just four doors (calls) made of
> crepe paper, it is infinitely more vulnerable than IIS with its...
RE: FN-FORUM: Search by proximity
date posted 11th December 2007 15:21
> Maybe the Google Maps API can give you this kind of info - ive seen it done before with Estate Agent sites
>
> http://code.google.com/apis/maps/
>
> Kind regards
>
This was discussed on this l...
Re: FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 15:20
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 16:38:01 Tom Croft wrote:
> "Winning an argument on the internet is like winning the Special
> Olympics, you may be a winner, but you're still special"*
Some of these d...
Fwd: FN-FORUM: Search by proximity
date posted 11th December 2007 15:17
> However, there is also a need to search for places by postcode (eg local
> garage). My client however would like the ability to search for by a given
> postcode with results shown based on proximity...
RE: FN-FORUM: Search by proximity
date posted 11th December 2007 15:15
Dom,
The link given by Martin appears to do this:
http://www.jibble.org/ukpostcodes/
How do you go about the conversion?
Regards
Phill Healey
Munklefish
Po Box 70
Manchester
M34 3SQ
T: 0161 408 47...
RE: FN-FORUM: Search by proximity
date posted 11th December 2007 15:12
>You can get a free file (no idea of accuracy) for mapping to just the
>outcode part of postcodes i.e. AB11 from
>http://easypeasy.com/article.php?article=64. Maybe accurate enough for
you?
Poin...
RE: FN-FORUM: Search by proximity
date posted 11th December 2007 15:09
> However, there is also a need to search for places by
> postcode (eg local garage). My client however would like the
> ability to search for by a given postcode with results shown
> based on prox...
RE: SPAM-LOW: FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 15:08
When I were a lad the type of email from young Dom was spotted a mile away
for what it was - a troll. An energy-efficient way (usually one short
sentence will suffice. "Well if they *will* use IIS..."...
Re: FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 15:05
Gary Short wrote:
>
> You are talking about the Forrester research from 2004, that's not really
> recent, though it is still funny :-)
>
> Cheers!
>
> --
> Gary Short
> http://www.garyshort.org
>
>...
FN-FORUM: Best Job site software for me?
date posted 11th December 2007 15:04
1) Can people recommend me open source code for creating a job recruitment
website please.
It doesn't have to be free. I'm looking for maximum flexibility. The client
wants something "very simple"...
Re: FN-FORUM: RE: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 15:00
> On 11/12/2007 14:20, Dom Latter wrote:
>> On Tuesday 11 December 2007 14:34:05 Darren Seamark wrote:
>>> Having checked they've found a whole bunch of folders containing a
>>> single
>>> html file...
RE: SPAM-LOW: FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 15:00
>Considering that more=20
>webservers run Apache than *everything else combined* might seem to=20
>indicate something.
>http://news.netcraft.com/archives/web_server_survey.html
The quoted webpage su...
Re: SPAM-LOW: FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 14:59
On 11 Dec 2007 15:38:13 -0000, Nick Grimshaw wrote
> I gather it's reasonably well-accepted that the reason we see more
> viruses/trojans for Windows (compared to say, Macs) is due to the
> greater...
Re: SPAM-LOW: FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 14:57
On 11/12/2007 15:39, Nick Grimshaw wrote:
>
> Hi everyone. I've missed you.
>
> Phillip Healey wrote (about Dom):
>> Also the fact that you say your logs show IIS specific attempted hacks
>> just
>...
Re: FN-FORUM: Search by proximity
date posted 11th December 2007 14:53
Yes, you can obtain datasets of postcode tied to geographic co-=20
ordinates (either OS or longitude/latitude). You can use the co-=20
ordinate data to perform proximity searches.
On 11 Dec 2007, at...
Re: FN-FORUM: Search by proximity
date posted 11th December 2007 14:47
You can get a free file (no idea of accuracy) for mapping to just the
outcode part of postcodes i.e. AB11 from
http://easypeasy.com/article.php?article=64. Maybe accurate enough for you?
Phillip H...
Re: FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 14:45
On 11 Dec 2007 15:37:19 -0000, Tom Croft wrote
> Gary Short wrote:
> > ...The most up to date research regarding MS vs Linux
> > and IIS vs Apache security shows MS and IIS out if front I'm afraid.
>...
RE: FN-FORUM: Search by proximity
date posted 11th December 2007 14:43
Maybe the Google Maps API can give you this kind of info - ive seen it =
done before with Estate Agent sites
http://code.google.com/apis/maps/
Kind regards=20
Brendan Oliver
[FSW Multimedia]=20...
Re: FN-FORUM: Search by proximity
date posted 11th December 2007 14:43
Hi Phil.
I looked at a similar project a while back. My idea was to use a
mapping of postcode to longitude/latitude and calculate the distance
that way. I gave that up though, as getting that inf...
Re: FN-FORUM: Search by proximity
date posted 11th December 2007 14:43
On 11/12/2007 15:34, Phillip Healey wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I’m about to start work on a project that involves searching for places in
> the database by various fields. So this is quite easy.
>
> However,...
Re: SPAM-LOW: FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 14:39
Hi everyone. I've missed you.
Phillip Healey wrote (about Dom):
> Also the fact that you say your logs show IIS specific attempted hacks just
> indicates that more hacks are aimed at IIS, not that II...
Re: FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 14:38
Gary Short wrote:
> ...The most up to date research regarding MS vs Linux
> and IIS vs Apache security shows MS and IIS out if front I'm afraid.
>
>
>
Normally, I try to keep clear of these partis...
FN-FORUM: Search by proximity
date posted 11th December 2007 14:34
Hi,
I=92m about to start work on a project that involves searching for =
places in
the database by various fields. So this is quite easy.
However, there is also a need to search for places by postco...
Re: FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 14:26
On 11 Dec 2007 15:10:03 -0000, Dom Latter wrote
> On Tuesday 11 December 2007 15:30:42 Gary Short wrote:
>
> > There's no difference in security between an unhardened IIS installation
> > and an unha...
RE: SPAM-LOW: FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 14:23
>But unless they've done some *major* work they've still got this problem:
>http://www.visualcomplexity.com/vc/project_details.cfm?index=392&id=392&dom
ain
Im not really convinced this proves anythi...
Re: FN-FORUM: RE: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 14:21
Colin Shipton wrote:
>
>
> Responses like Dom's are petty preference like PC vs. Mac or PHP vs. ASP or
> Netscape vs. IE or XBox 360 vs. PS3
>
>
But everyone knows that PCs are better than Macs, PH...
FN-FORUM: OS War episode number 1,467, was: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 14:11
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 15:30:42 Gary Short wrote:
> There's no difference in security between an unhardened IIS installation
> and an unhardened Apache installation. Neither is there much differ...
Re: FN-FORUM: RE: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 14:09
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 15:56:12 Colin Shipton wrote:
> +1
>
> Responses like Dom's are petty preference like PC vs. Mac or PHP vs. ASP or
OK, shoulda used a smiley....
RE: FN-FORUM: RE: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 13:57
> > Well if they *will* use IIS...
> >
>
> Of course it's bound to be the fault of IIS, I mean it's so
> much less secure than Apache; it's not as if you can harden
> IIS at all, or as if there ar...
Re: FN-FORUM: RE: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 13:31
On 11/12/2007 14:20, Dom Latter wrote:
> On Tuesday 11 December 2007 14:34:05 Darren Seamark wrote:
>> Having checked they've found a whole bunch of folders containing a single
>> html file redirectin...
Re: FN-FORUM: RE: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 13:31
On 11 Dec 2007 14:19:18 -0000, Dom Latter wrote
> On Tuesday 11 December 2007 14:34:05 Darren Seamark wrote:
> > Having checked they've found a whole bunch of folders containing a single
> > html file...
Re: FN-FORUM: RE: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 13:20
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 14:34:05 Darren Seamark wrote:
> Having checked they've found a whole bunch of folders containing a single
> html file redirecting to all manner of stuff. The hosting com...
FN-FORUM: RE: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 12:35
Having checked they've found a whole bunch of folders containing a single
html file redirecting to all manner of stuff. The hosting company has been
hit by hackers in the past on a number of occasio...
RE: SPAM-LOW: FN-FORUM: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 11:56
Sounds like someone has managed to upload a redirection file onto the
element of the server used by your client for the subdomain. This is the
most common form for this kind of thing. Ive had it happe...
FN-FORUM: Todays WTF
date posted 11th December 2007 11:56
For anyone who doesn't read The Daily WTF ( or whatever it calls itself
now ) this article may cover very familliar ground for members of this list:
http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/A-Gift-from-...
RE: FN-FORUM: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 11:53
b) What they can do to get it removed. Sharpish.
Yahoo SiteExplorer can remove URLs
https://siteexplorer.search.yahoo.com/
As for how fast, that I don=92t know
=20
Internal Virus Database is out...
FN-FORUM: Domain name spoofing in search results
date posted 11th December 2007 11:47
Hi,
Hope someone can help with this. A client of mine has a client who
happens to be a Borough council which obviously has a website. The domain
name is naturally home to the main website, howev...
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