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Freelancers Forum Messages on Thursday March 6th 2008

RE: FN-FORUM: Hi all (new here)

date posted 6th March 2008 23:53

Ben J wrote: > The last point is crucial: if you give the client a means of updating = the > site themselves, they are obviously less likely to need your help in future > / be willing to sign up to a...

Re: FN-FORUM: Hi all (new here)

date posted 6th March 2008 23:08

On Thursday 06 March 2008 21:01:13 Ben Johnson F wrote: > The price you charge for the CMS add-on needs to reflect: > - IMPORTANT: The maintenance revenue you will lose as a result. > - We...

Re: FN-FORUM: Hi all (new here)

date posted 6th March 2008 22:59

I have to disagree with you there Ben. As you say, you can spend ages coming up with a ball park only to find the client can't afford it. I have always found it easier to ask what the client is look...

RE: FN-FORUM: Hi all (new here)

date posted 6th March 2008 21:33

Lee Rickler wrote: > Never give a price, always ask for a budget. Nice theory, but many clients suspect a rat (possibly justifiably, = depending on the integrity of the supplier!) and point-blank ref...

Re: FN-FORUM: Hi all (new here)

date posted 6th March 2008 20:18

OK well when I did first start freelancing I was not charging very much to get some experience, which lead me to a job as a web developer (avoiding junior positions) so with my extra experience plus...

Re: FN-FORUM: Hi all (new here)

date posted 6th March 2008 20:09

Never give a price, always ask for a budget. Lee Rickler Director Point and Stare - pointandstare.com Web Design and Development for over 11 years Tony Crockford wrote: > > > On 6 Mar 2008, at 19...

Re: FN-FORUM: Hi all (new here)

date posted 6th March 2008 20:06

On 6 Mar 2008, at 19:25, a wrote: > > I didn't mean =A370 for the update I meant =A370 for the actual CMS = (php/=20 > mysql) how long will it take you to build, install and explain how to use =20...

Re: FN-FORUM: Hi all (new here)

date posted 6th March 2008 20:05

On 6 Mar 2008, at 19:15, Darren Moore wrote: > > I deal with small companies at the moment and they don't have budgets > set. Sure they sometimes have marketing budgets but they always forget > the...

RE: FN-FORUM: Hi all (new here)

date posted 6th March 2008 18:40

> I didn't mean =A370 for the update I meant =A370 for the actual CMS=20 > (php/mysql) where they could do their own updates. I presume (hope!) you mean =A370 for the CMS add-on, not for the whole =...

Re: FN-FORUM: Hi all (new here)

date posted 6th March 2008 18:37

My two bob's worth.... I'm currently running about 15 sites on a monthly maintenance basis having charged between £200 and £2,000 as set up charges depending on size and requirements. The monthly m...

Re: FN-FORUM: Hi all (new here)

date posted 6th March 2008 18:27

Mine are pretty basic though I'd like to develop better ones as I go and just sell them as an add-on. Good luck with yours----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren Moore" [EMAIL REMOVED] To: [EMA...

Re: FN-FORUM: Hi all (new here)

date posted 6th March 2008 18:20

My apologies. Depends how good the CMS is and how long you spent on it. I'm pretty much throwing my CMS in for free at the moment - a little freebie for my customers. I'm in talks with a company to s...

Re: FN-FORUM: Hi all (new here)

date posted 6th March 2008 18:04

I didn't mean £70 for the update I meant £70 for the actual CMS (php/mysql) where they could do their own updates. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren Moore" [EMAIL REMOVED] To: [EMAIL REMOVE...

Re: FN-FORUM: [DISCUSSION] - Adobe Flex

date posted 6th March 2008 17:57

Ramnish Kalsi wrote: > What does the group think of Flex technology, and its potential. > > > I'm already using it, but development is focused on the back end and not something we will be delive...

Re: FN-FORUM: Hi all (new here)

date posted 6th March 2008 17:54

I deal with small companies at the moment and they don't have budgets set. Sure they sometimes have marketing budgets but they always forget the website. I find it's good to give them a few options an...

Re: FN-FORUM: Hi all (new here)

date posted 6th March 2008 17:31

I've been thinking about a "what's your budget" sort of approach. Although the last time I tried it they wanted a price. What would you say is a fair price for a CMS I was going to start with £70...

RE: FN-FORUM: [DISCUSSION] - Adobe Flex

date posted 6th March 2008 16:28

Great for those who are into advanced as development (as3), it built on = the eclipse IDE and has some really nice tools that make it a more = efficient place to develop AS than the native IDE in Flas...

FN-FORUM: [DISCUSSION] - Adobe Flex

date posted 6th March 2008 16:16

Hi there, I am positive, people would have heard of Adobe Flex by now. http://learn.adobe.com/wiki/display/Flex/Getting+Started Almost everyone with Java background knows the pains of JSP/MVC/front...

RE: FN-FORUM: I've just been ripped. :(

date posted 6th March 2008 15:52

> -----Original Message----- > Sam M - www.wiredeyes.com wrote: > > Agreed though there isn't much I can do, they haven$B!G(Bt ripped > the > > site directly (apart from the icons) although they hav...

FN-FORUM: Gammadyne Mailer Or TEXT unsub

date posted 6th March 2008 15:22

anyone use Gammadyne mailer? and know how to setup the unsub function ? Or I was thinking of setting up an unsub link in the email but that only works if people click the link and go to the site. P...

Re: FN-FORUM: I've just been ripped. :(

date posted 6th March 2008 15:20

I was just about to say, your best defence is a contract and a deposit. I based my contracts on these ones http://www.wilsonweb.com/worksheet/pkg-con.htm Lee Rickler wrote: > > Well the only legal...

Re: FN-FORUM: I've just been ripped. :(

date posted 6th March 2008 15:14

Well the only legal matters could have been if the client has paid for bespoke coding and then I used that elsewhere, I suppose, but I couldn't see what leg they had to stand on when their developer...

RE: FN-FORUM: I've just been ripped. :(

date posted 6th March 2008 15:05

Lee Rickler wrote: > I contacted the ex-client, told them I could prove it was my work, > they said their developer had let them down and could I finish the > project at which point my quote mysteri...

RE: FN-FORUM: I've just been ripped. :(

date posted 6th March 2008 14:57

>There are the same icons there WITH the mentioned shadow/shading =20 >effects, so perhaps he's just downloaded >what, roughly looking 2,000 to 3,000 people have done across the many =20 >lightbox do...

Re: FN-FORUM: I've just been ripped. :(

date posted 6th March 2008 14:55

Do what I do and stick some extraneous code somewhere amongst all the (validating!) code. Then if you say "you nicked my website" you can prove it. Long story illustrating this (but cut short): clie...

RE: FN-FORUM: I've just been ripped. :(

date posted 6th March 2008 14:44

Sam M - www.wiredeyes.com wrote: > Agreed though there isn't much I can do, they haven=1B$B!G=1B(Bt = ripped the=20 > site directly (apart from the icons) although they have for all=20 > intensive pur...

Re: FN-FORUM: I've just been ripped. :(

date posted 6th March 2008 14:39

On 6 Mar 2008, at 15:07, Sam M - www.wiredeyes.com wrote: > > The icons are certainly ripped, yes they are stock but I've mod'ed > them > quite a bit adding the mirror shadow effects and changing...

Re: FN-FORUM: Suggestions for small open-source project management/collaboration tool

date posted 6th March 2008 14:21

On Wed, 2008-03-05 at 22:27 +0000, Duncan Glendinning wrote: > Good Evening, > > I know there are hundreds out there... but I want your recommendations. > I am after a small opensource web applicatio...

FN-FORUM: Flash Programmer Required

date posted 6th March 2008 13:57

Hi I need some Flash work doing so anyone interested contact me off list and I shall give you details of the job. ************** Regards Peter Stubbs Applejack Tel: +44 (0)845 129 8453 Fax: +44...

RE: FN-FORUM: I've just been ripped. :(

date posted 6th March 2008 13:46

The icons are certainly ripped, yes they are stock but I've mod'ed them quite a bit adding the mirror shadow effects and changing the colouring etc, plus the file names are exactly the same. Agreed t...

Re: FN-FORUM: I've just been ripped. :(

date posted 6th March 2008 12:34

They haven't ripped any icons, they are stock that anyone can purchase. Admittedly the layout is stock as well, but you'll find that even your version is the same as a thousand others. lazy, yes, ri...

RE: FN-FORUM: I've just been ripped. :(

date posted 6th March 2008 12:33

Sam Morgan wrote: > I've just had my first website design ripped :). You all know our site > www.servwise.com and this is their site www[dot]ufhosting[dot]org. = looks > very similar, they have ripped...

RE: FN-FORUM: I've just been ripped. :(

date posted 6th March 2008 10:15

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Re: FN-FORUM: Hi all (new here)

date posted 6th March 2008 09:59

> I'm a big fan of budget-driven quotes. Get an idea of what the client can > afford to spend, then tailor what is included to suit. Forgot to mention my current-favourite analogy: building a website...

RE: FN-FORUM: marketing guys

date posted 6th March 2008 09:36

Hi! Yes - I could hopefully help! Get in touch..... Paul Paul Hughes MCIM Smarter Marketing • Literature production • Website design and production • Copy writing • Press Release...

Re: FN-FORUM: marketing guys

date posted 6th March 2008 09:22

Me - I do a lot of branding and brand marketing, please see me site and if interested please get in touch. www.prismbrands.com Benjamin Ridgway (Creative Director) ------------------------------...

FN-FORUM: marketing guys

date posted 6th March 2008 09:08

any marketing guys out there looking for a new project? Andrew...

RE: FN-FORUM: Hi all (new here)

date posted 6th March 2008 09:03

> Honestly , I'm not trolling - but do you get enough of them to make a > living at that price? No, but only one of my clients has bought that "package" all of my other clients have had some bespoke...

Re: FN-FORUM: I've just been ripped. :(

date posted 6th March 2008 08:29

On 6 Mar 2008, at 07:05, Sam M - www.wiredeyes.com wrote: > > I've just had my first website design ripped :). You all know our site > www.servwise.com and this is their site www[dot]ufhosting[dot]o...

RE: FN-FORUM: I've just been ripped. :(

date posted 6th March 2008 08:18

Well that's a poor rip done by some poor coders if they've resorted to tables to re-create your design, don't think there's a lot you can do = about it though, you can report them to Google and get th...

FN-FORUM: I've just been ripped. :(

date posted 6th March 2008 05:44

I've just had my first website design ripped :). You all know our site www.servwise.com and this is their site www[dot]ufhosting[dot]org. looks very similar, they have ripped the icons at the top and...



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